Sketchucation's Questions

[tweenulzeven]

@DaveR

The Move tool is not used for scaling. It can be used to change the size of the window by selectively choosing edges and faces and moving the to stretch or shrink it.

It could be a language thing, but is changing the size of something not basically the same as scaling?

[DaveR]

I didn’t “whack you into trying to get something for free”. You first two sentences implied you thought you had to pay to be a member.

@jenordberg

I have never had much use for Sketchucation (that is when it was free). I Need Fredo Scale however and it seems the only way to get it is to subscribe to Sketchucation.

I only addressed that and tried to answer your questions.

I also found that you were already a non-paying member and have been since 2016. And I see you opted to become a premium member the other day.

[DaveR]

At least to me, scaling implies some sort of proportional change like the Scale tool does. Using the Move tool to change a dimension doesn’t need to result in a proportional change to the geometry.

[tweenulzeven]

@jenordberg

but the geometry is too involved to have to scale it piece face by face, line by line

I just wanted to mention that it is possible to do with the move tool.
Most extensions perform tasks that can be done manually but faster…

[Box]

I replied to a similar question here.

How to cut an object using a plane

Enter the group for editing, double click, then use a Left to right selection fence to only select the parts you want to move, move them. The exit out of the group. Usually no chopping/exploding/frankensteining needed. [GIF 10-02-2024 6-45-00 PM] But if you give us an example model we can be more specific.

[jenordberg]

Yes. I didn’t say I wasn’t a free member. That’s how I got Fredo Scale on a trial basis and knew it did what I needed. Whatever the misunderstanding over my wording, this got very frustrating (and not with you in particular) I’m trying to make nice here.
No Mas - please.

[tweenulzeven]

@DaveR

scaling implies some sort of proportional change

I see what you mean now, the move tool indeed doesn’t do that…

[francisquitof]

@jenordberg

No Mas

Do you speak Spanish?

[jenordberg]

No spanish to speak of (sadly). A reference to Roberto Duran vs Sugar Ray Leonard (not that I am a big boxing fan either). Showing my age perhaps.

[cakrupp]

See my YouTube video on my channel Christopher A Krupp . Architect for a video called Move tool versus the Scale tool for a clear explanation.

[jenordberg]

Thanks Cakrupp,
I watched the video and I do understand how the move/scale tools can work. I got the Fredo package and in fact had tried it out last summer on a 30 day trial and knew it would do what I needed. My initial question was really about what a premium SketchUcation subscription was all about and not so much a “how to”.

The attached images are included to show what I needed to do (and have done) given the way the frames, sash, etc are modeled. And, yes, I am a crazy person with the details.

Thanks again!

[RLGL]

@jenordberg

what a premium SketchUcation subscription was all about

See this Page at Sketucation.

[Cyentruk]

Another option for you to choose beside Fredo Scale is Curic Stretch. Here it is:

This Extension STRETCHES Objects without Deforming Them! (Curic Stretch Tutorial)

[cakrupp]

Hopefully, there’s an unlocked back door in the looney bin, cause you’ll need it. (you are most definitely insane).

It, as it should, appears that you likely have many “layers” (nested) groups/components in your models.
Don’t know if Fredo’s extension allows you to edit all of them with a single “move” or not. For your sake, I hope so, otherwise, you’ll be repeating your “stretches” over and over for all the various parts.

I think I’d explode the finished window (keeping a non-exploded original) and make it a single group so selecting vertical or horizontal elements as associated entities via a selection window would be easy. I usually make a single window of 1’ x 1’ size, then make numerous copies and stretch them out to the various sizes you want/need, essentially making a library of generic windows.

I find that the detail you have put into your windows will be lost within a large model and will just weigh down the whole thing.
Unless you’re a window mfgr, that amount of detail is not required. Mine are probably only about 5% of yours; a frame, a sash and glass.(mullions if req’d) end of story.

Great drawings though. And I thought I was a detail guy!!!
Chris

[jenordberg]

This does look like a good tool that might have worked just as well. Next time.Thanks.