Profile Builder 4 - barrier with unique end posts with horizontal 'planks' that don't bend around curves

I’m new to Profile Builder and am trying to create profiles for various styles of post/plank barriers. These consist of two different styles of vertical posts - one for the two ends, and another for the middle. The horizontal ‘planks’ are all the same. The completed assemblies need to follow paths that are both straight, cornered and curved, but the planks cannot bend.

I’ve created assemblies that contain profile members and components. These allow me to have unique end posts, but the profile members (planks) curve when following a curved path.

I’ve also created assemblies that contain components and spans. These keep the planks straight when following a curved path, but I can’t figure out how to make the end posts unique whilst still connecting to the generic span. In this case the planks are missing between the unique end posts and the generic inner posts.

I suspect that I’m missing something obvious here, but I haven’t been able to find the solution. How do I get the planks to span between ALL the posts - whether unique or not?

Thanks in advance

You will probably have better luck if you post your model and assemblies showing what is going wrong.

Without really seeing what you are trying to achieve it’s a bit difficult to make suggestions. You could have a look at the PB4 sample file “Industrial Railing V4” which might give you some ideas for a solution.

Thanks for that tip, I’ve attached a simple model and assembly to look at.

The issue is connecting the red posts to the black posts with the same span that connects all the other black posts.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Archive.zip (1.4 MB)

Is it necessary that the distances between the first interior post and the last interior post be those in your model or does it not matter?

If not, then you can try this setting for the inner posts

Hi mihai.s

Yes, the spacing does matter. In the example shown, the post spacing needs to be 2m (whether interior or end), with only the last space in any stretch being reduced to suit.

From the looks of it though, that’s what you appear to have achieved. I’m slightly confused by how though, as component#2 in the dialogue applies to everything except the start post, but the model doesn’t show the same. Am I missing something?

I think I tried what you’ve done but I couldn’t get it to work in the span section. Can you please upload your model so I can compare to mine and figure out where I’ve gone wrong?

Thanks for your help so far.

As an idea
PB3-test.skp (2.1 MB)

Ah, I see what you’ve done now - you’ve ‘hidden’ one end post inside another - very clever!

Unfortunately, in this case that won’t work. The model I supplied was just an example as I didn’t want to use the client’s actual models (IP and all that). In reality the end posts and inner posts are the same size but with different features, therefore parts of both will be visible using your method. Thanks for the attempt though. :+1:

The question still remains then: is it possible to have two different post components with a single span that remains straight around curved paths in Profile Builder?

After you create the fence model in PB, you could delete those two end posts.

If the solution I gave you above is still not what you want, the person most qualified to answer this question is @Whaat.

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That’s true enough, thanks. I may have to edit some of the post spacings after the model is complete anyway, so deleting a couple of surplus end posts wouldn’t be an issue. Do you know of a tip to select the correct one of two identically sized components that occupy the same space?

I often will Edit>Cut whichever one I click on. If the one left is correct I’ll move on with my work. If the one left is wrong I will delete it, then Edit>Paste in Place.

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Yes, you can use Outliner, or you can use extention thomthom PickIt (right click > choose what to select)

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Have you tried using an invisible ‘spacer’ component part to support the spans instead of an actual post component?

In PB4, you can create a ‘component’ for the assembly that is really just an invisible part used to connect spans. Try using the spacer for your spans and make sure that the spacing and layout for the invisible spacer matches that of your actual visible posts.

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Great, thanks!

Thanks Whaat, I’m not sure if I totally understand what you’re suggesting, but I’ll look more closely later and come back if not.