We shouldn’t have to pay for them to “fix” anything. Can you imagine leasing a car forever so Toyota could keep fixing it, and so you can keep driving it?
Interesting because it is developed even more with subscription pricing, which it’s had for years, despite your assertion that isn’t possible. It’s also priced at double what SketchUp is, so you must have a rare deal.
You were making a point about development and I responded. Don’t act like I brought it up, just because you don’t like that the answer negates your point.
You can’t move the goal posts like that.
as has been mentioned, if one has a perpetual license then you don’t lose everything
As an Adobe user for the last 30 years I can tell you that the improvements have been huge and you clearly are not aware. Also photoshop and illustrator are but a small part of the creative cloud package. Don’t even act like it isn’t the perfect example of how subscription pricing resulted in more development . Because it is. Not my fault you aren’t familiar.
Then you really shouldn’t argue.
They update it constantly. And AGAIN Photoshop is only a small part of the suite. If you want to even discuss this you would lump all updates to all of their software and services, and it would be huge.
All this is really just to make the point that the argument that a subscription somehow slows development is false. If Adobe invented it (highly doubtful), they certainly did well with it, and it did not result in stagnant development or a loss in customers. Quite the opposite actually.
early adopters that are at the end of the curve alway’s have to deal with this: should I invest time (for a professional this means money) in a software package that has evolved or not?
The question is not how many updates a certain package has, but will it fit my in my process?
The direction the AEC industry is evolving goes fast for the larger companies but will be stable for a while for smaller ones. But you will have to deal with them at some point.
That’s why I like the approach of Trimble that doesn’t dictate use of certain software, as opposed to AD, that forces the user to only use theirs.
Mojo or Cinema 3D has more to fear of Blender than the AEC-packages, I guess, and small companies or free-lance artist’s could switch to Blender fairly easy.
Maybe, there will be an add-on in Blender to regain the feeling that SketchUp had in it’s peak of development. I am not gonna wait two more years for that. Besides, modelling itself is not that important, anymore.
Instead, I am trying to invest time in Trimble Connect. Many regulations in our region prescribe use of BIM models, if you’re not gonna jump into it, you’re lost at some point.
A subscription to SketchUp includes use of Trimble Connect and offers a possibility to team up with larger companies. I admit, there are flaws, still, but have you read all the improvements and updates this month?
(yes, not quarterly, every month)
It’s all about data, these days. Exiting, not?
me…

Your ignorance to the development is just that. Ignorance. I’m not here to educate you on what you don’t see, but I guarantee the list of improvements is not light since they began subscriptions. And photoshop, AGAIN, is only a small portion of what the subscription provides. Looking at that alone is ignoring something like 80-90% of the offering. But as you admitted, you haven’t used it in a decade or more.
Everything I said about adobe stands true. The subscription model didn’t cause them a loss of customers nor did it slow down development. Nothing you’ve countered with is either relevant nor true.
I’m only saying that saying you don’t know anything about Photoshop doesn’t mean that it hasn’t been developed. The challenge was to name a piece of software that went through strong development with a subscription pricing model. I named Adobe CC, because it’s exactly that. If you or anyone is arguing, I’m all about it, but if you really don’t know anything about it, I guess I don’t even see why you’re engaging at all on the subject.
And yet that doesn’t mean that Adobe didn’t flourish with the subscription model. And once AGAIN photoshop is not even 10% of the subscription offering. Another irrelevant argument against my perfect example.


