What version of SketchUp and LayOut are you using? Your profile says 2019 Free Web.
Iâm afraid youâre rightâŚthe piece of software has as enormous P O T E N T I A L, but the programmers canât get it to work. Iâve made several suggestion which can make LO faster, but they donât listen. I wonder if they have tested it actually. HoweverâŚa very very disappointed customer here.
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Dave, do you have a smooth going LO version? Whatâs your secret? Inner peace? Yoga? Meditation? aaaarghâŚ! 
Yeah. I donât really have any problems.
Holding my tongue right. 
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MmmmâŚyouâre right having my tongue to the left. Will try it.
But what is the magic you have and we donât???
Clean living.
I live clean, act cleanâŚactually I decorated my entire house for our newcomer; Mrs. Lay Out. But itâs not clean enough and she has many secrets. Right now sheâs the laziest in the house, eating drinking, watching tv. Youâll have to put so much energy in here to let her doâŚwell not much actually. Iâm really thinking to divorce. I need inspiration, want to runâŚopen the windows and breath some fresh air. Ah now I understandâŚClean LivingâŚget rid of all the SH(##$ and make a change.
Thanks Dave!
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The key is clean SU modeling and a dedicated system of templates for both LO and SU. Donât try and vector render a giant 3D model. No software does that easily and efficiently.
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Probably the best description for Layout Iâve read so far.
I donât have the courage to ask for divorce because Mrs. Lay Out has double personality and most of the times she is called Mrs. SketchUp
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sounds more like a Mr Layout if you ask meâŚ
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âŚitâs a tough relationship however.
I am sure Mr SU and Ms LOâs families didnât talk to one another right from the start !
Not a marriage made in heaven!
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Layout has huge potential, it most closely reminds me of working in SolidWorks and using its equivalent of Layout to put together documents (Aerospace). I donât know what it would take to make Layout a bit more robust and stable but if we can ever get it there it will be a complete game changer.
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Amen! Yes it is! Thatâs why it is so frustrating! It is a potential game changer! Unbelievable that they donât put more effort into it.
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I get an interesting freak-out in Layout that I think Iâve tracked down to the moment I try to copy text from a table. Doesnât always happen, but probably 2-3 times a week. Iâll go to issue a command and then the workspace appears to be resizing all the trays for 20 seconds or so and when it stops all Iâve got is the default tray. Takes 2-3 minutes to set my trays up again and then good to go⌠but annoying for sure. Found this thread while wondering if there was a way to solve it.
Anybody know how to save workspaces? Then I could just reset with one or two clicks.
BTW I canât get on board that Layout sucks - could use some polishing maybe, but Iâve found it to be intuitive and very powerful. All software has a laundry list of features people want to add. Thatâs why autocad has like 10,000 commands.
I think the answer is: A serious and sincere effort and commitment from Trimble to remake LayOut into a state of the art 2D presentation package that is worthy to be SketchUpâs partner. Indeed this could be a game changer, but so far Trimble doesnât seem interested in playing! Trimble: Please give us âLayOut Proâ!
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Layout is terrible, arguably unhealthy, pretty please Trimble, help us.
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I read through every single post here and I could not agree more with many of the users. I am a registered Architect who has been using Sketchup since the âLastâ days. I have been using SU Pro for more than 7 years (previously paying for every service contract) and trying very hard to use LO with what is assumed to be the correct workflow.
Every a members asks the pointed question of âhow to optimize LOâ there is never a great answer. I usually see, model less, draw less, make less groups, check your graphics card to make sure it compatible. The simple most straight forward thing I can come up with is LO hates SU, and eventually hates getting larger in file size. Seriously, I can use LO as a very fast drafting software (sans text copy and paste) and things seem to work ok. The second you start bringing in any model information vector or not, LO just starts to have issues. I have watched every youtube video tips and tricks. I have triple checked my render resolution and every other button worth checking. I have combed through the SU file and paid attention to all image resolution and scrapbook items. But the truth is transitioning a Schematic Design model and LO file into DD or (OMG) CDâs wow.
I wonder how many users who donât have issues with LO are using this for documentation for a drawing set? What does the line work look like? The range of drawing sets and documentation from a designers and Architectâs think could be a big span, no less what Trimble might consider.
I have done countless size projects with various degrees of detail in LO via SU model and I cannot think of one project that is not a complete dog once transitioned into LO. I can feel the stress build when I try to resize and re-render a viewport, just waiting for the bugs-plat to hit me in the face. Each project I do, I say out loud, I am never using this software againâŚAs a sole practitioner, who has used many other professional BIM and drafting softwareâs, I thought it would be great to blaze a different path. To be proud of not defaulting into what every other firm is using. I am afraid I am turning the page on this concept and will have no choice but to put LO in the rear view.
My hope is that Trimble sees the value in developing a product for professionals and to tackle this market. My hope is that they see how close yet how far Layout is from being able to be stable and predictable for those who need to turn a profit to stay in business. I know nothing about building software, I just know I have used many design/drafting tools in my 21 years in the industry. Without seeing an improved LO I cannot be moving forward with any future iterations of Sketchup Pro. The non-focused updates I have recently continue to make me shake my head in dismay. My hope is that I can stop shaking my head, get excited about future releases of Pro version software from Trimble.
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Iâm also a licensed sole proprietor. I couldnât do the number of projects I do without SU and LO. My CD sets are typically 60-130 D size sheets.
I did 9 projects in 9 months last year.
So, while I hear the frustration, there is a way to get LO to perform.