It’s not a discount. You will from now on pay for the rest of your Sketchup life and the day you stop paying Sketchup won’t open anymore.
Companies think this is a good idea. I think so too but for completely different reasons. When Adobe did this, it gave us Affinity within a few years.
Given the meagre updates we get with every new Sketchup version and the increasing amount of bugs I encounter, I assume some other company will in time fill the gap, and I won’t ever look at Sketchup again.
Tells you a lot when that kind of criticism comes from people who bought a classic license back in 2005.
So no this isn’t a discount. You’re being screwed. I feel for you but I’m not surprised at all given the direction Sketchup has been taken these past few years, mainly since it left Google.
That’s not right, is it? If you have a Classic licence, you can go on using the software in perpetuity. It just won’t get updated so will naturally fade into oblivion over a course of years.
Isn’t it truer to say that Trimble are trying to get people signed up on subscription as soon as they can and by any means available? It may be a discount if your Classic licence is near its end. For the rest, the equation is more obscure. The fact that it is may be deliberate (if you like conspiracy theories) or may just be questionable customer relations.
Sure. You write it down more politely and I agree. Considering the license, I meant that the system of subscription will not allow you to open the software in perpetuity. So from the moment you need version x in the future to open a file and that version isn’t available for some reason (also when Trimble fails to deliver future service) you won’t be able to open files. I think that’s a big risk. People say such a risk is minor. Is it? I can see so many situations where things can go wrong and your work will be sitting idly on the HD.
I expect the Viewer would always allow you to see your drawings even if you couldn’t edit them.
A company like Trimble always has to balance maximizing their income stream (which, as you have pointed out, can reap dividends for subscribers) with alienation of their customer base. When big changes are made, and especially when they involve significant extra cost, there is always an initial outcry. Only time will tell whether it proves to be birthing pains or a death rattle.
I don’t intend to go for the subscription until i need to or there’s some killer features added regardless of the offer. Based on previous releases that might be several years for me and would offset some of the cost. That said, trimble will no doubt be holding back some juicy updates for 2022 to entice me in.
In the mean time, i do need to decide whether or not to pay the M&S next month; is a 2021 Classic release likely?
I also got a promotion to migrate to a subscription for the first two years at the price of the yearly M&S. After the two years, the subscription would be at the regular price. If I would accept the offer today, then I would have to pay the normal subscription price the first time today in two years.
As my M&S ends end of April 2021, I would pay the 7 months until April next year twice.
Btw, the promotion was said to be valid only until 31 July, but in fact, I could still order it today.
An alternative would be to extend on Nov 3rd my M&S early, so that it lasts to 3 Nov 2021. But as I assume that the 2021 SU version is coming out before April, I will not go down that route.
This must be from your reseller. It doesn’t sound like the promotions I’ve seen from Trmble (though I’m no expert–who could figure out what they’re saying?).
I have a different take.
I bought SU to do one very big job back in 2016.
That building is now fully modeled, unless I can sell it to investors and then need to return to it to remodel some more.
So, it makes sense for me not to go to the subscription if I don’t sell the building idea, and then just keep using my perpetual license to open and maybe do some mods to layout to help sell the idea - the layout presentation part is now 133 pages and keeps growing with demands for new details as I go around. I got help through this forum, which I understand will still be available to me, even if updates won’t be after Nov. 1 (I have the latest SU 2020 minor update that just came out a few weeks ago).
If I am successful in selling the building and am called upon to do more modeling, paying the full subscription price to continue using the latest SU will be the least of my worries, and one that hopefully will be a trivial amount of what I receive down the road as a developer, though at that point, professional architects will be doing more modeling than me anyway. I expect that given the unique nature of my project, I would be doing modeling, perhaps with my collaborator, in the early stages of the project.
Yours is a very particular case. No business could cater for it sensibly, I suspect.
Your profile says you have a SU Pro 2019 licence which you can go on using in perpetuity. That would seem to suit your case perfectly. Not sure why you have the word Subscription after it if you have not actually subscribed…
My major concern with the subscription is if it breakdown and is not fit for purpose, that i get a refund. In Australia where i am located the consumer protection law says fix or refund. So disclaimers about Trimble having no responsibility to fix are illegal here. Does any one know if I can speak to someone in Trimble about this difficult issue. I dont want to subscribe and find that it does not work or crashes all the time
So to continue the Promo theme, Ive just got an offer through the email (as Im sure you all have too) that offers a 20% discount on the annual subscription. Thats great if your subscription expires on or around 27 Jun. But what if it doesn’t? How does one take advantage of a promo if the dates don’t line up? My understanding is that promos are normally twice a year? Are they the same time each year? If so, one might decide to get one’s subscription in sync to take advantage of the annual promo. Unless of course, its random…