I hope this never ever in eternity and beyond never ever happens. An update can be better than Christmas if you have the time to look into what’s new and play around with it. The day before deadline or really just any time when you are in the mode to get a task done, not so fun.
I’ve come to hate programs that automatically push more noise and distractions into my face when I’m trying to work.
Sorry for my feistiness last night. I have follow up thoughts, but I have my daytime cap on for now. Expect civility for the next 8 hours!
No worries, I figured there would be some disagreements. Like I said, I don’t normally voice my opinions on things. But since this effects my work I figured I would. Appreciate your voice in it as well. I’m happy to see it from others perspectives.
But the Evee course is still relevant, I assume?
I have to disagree.
As a matter of fact, we (the “subdivision people”) are forced to pay for Layout developement, for useless cloud, for useless web app, for useless VR viewer (unity and unreal do it better for free).
So, why can’t we have, if not inbuilt subdivisions, at least proper quads inbuilt in Sketchup to export good models to other platform supporting quad modeling?
Why can’t we have decent UV tools inbuilt?
Why can’t we have a proper chamfer tool? Or inbuilt lofts?
Isn’t all of that useful even for architecture, enegineering and woodworking?
You don’t need rounded edges in architecture? You don’t need to texture an arc?
Why all of that is more difficult to have than Layout?
It’s all there in plugins and perfectly working, why they don’t buy that stuff and incorporate it in sketchup core?
Sketchup is already a poligon-modeling tool, it works on discrete geometry.
Is clearly more suited for that stuff than to do “CAD” stuff.
Sketchup doesn’t happen to have real curves and most likely newer will.
But they are trying to force Sketchup to be a pseudo-CAD package rather than incorporate poly-modeling stuff which could be way more simple to do.
I don’t know how these elements would be integrated into the program, but I think it’s true that, although we have less need for subd in work a day “architecture” the better implementation may help in mapping textures, terrain work, furniture, and other curvy elements we do have to work with. As far as greater building tools {apart from more BIM tools}, I am not sure where that would go compared to the extensions that are currently developed. I think improvement of the general architecturally relevant tools and processes (based on something like Sonder’s methods perhaps) may do more than trying to recreate PlusSpec or Meedek tools, for example, inside SketchUp itself.
I understand.
great idea …
Just to be clear: my post is not a comment but actual questions. I hope an SU team member can answer it.
As many subscribers can confirm, you have access to all versions above 2019. (Currently 2019 and 2020) Might have to log out in one version, but that’s about it.
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So this mean they will not force us to update. When an update will be release, we will be able to decide when we install it. Is that correct? thx Mike
The desktop client is controlled by the owner, you decide. You might even not instal 2021 at all.
Mind you, when I first bought SketchUp and got a serial starting with a ‘J’, my first thought was that there would only be a limited number of upgrades. 2020 starts with a ‘V’, so probably the last version will be released in 2024. 
After that, who knows?
I remember when told the UK car number plates used the alphabet for the first letter I was dumbfounded how they got past 1926.
After Z comes Å, Ä and Ö.
I really think Trimble need to rethink this move and come up with some super dooper features quick. The general agreement on this thread seems to be that SUPro has stagnated. You cannot say subscription will allow us to bring in new features. You can either bring in new features or you can’t. If you did, people would be snapping up the upgrades rather than electing not to upgrade. Glad to hear that others are also loathe to upgrade because of the PITA that shifting extensions across causes. I thought it was just me! I think a sensible move would be to bring in a raft of serious improvements and then ask for more money. Also, receiving that email whilst I am sitting in lockdown, out of work, no money coming in, no guarantee my job will restart in September is abysmal management.
lol. dude we’re talking about Trimble, get real!! 
Don’t forget Ñ !
I think if someone were to list the improvements made to SU in the last few years it might surprise some. I’m not going to let this thread be an out and out ‘agreed consensus’ that SU hasn’t changed in the last few years, coz it’s really not true … But likewise please don’t ask me to list the changes off the top of my head because I can’t really thing of many.
I don’t want to moan either- but I’ve been a SketchUp Pro user since 2004 (I think). I’ve been paying the maintenance fee for the last couple of years- which is annoying in itself- but to be told it’s going to more than double- like it’s some kind of favour to me, is actually pretty rage-inducing.
I will admit that I am kind of a tight-fisted spender, and going from a $120 / year maintenance to a $299 / year subscription is a pain. But what other option is there (for an architect) for something like the Sketchup / Layout combo for a similar price? Vectorworks and AutoCad are both about $200 per month, and are a very different approach to the workflow. For me, $299 per year is about one morning’s billing per year, which is not a terrible cost for something I use daily. But I do hope the extra cash-flow speeds refinements to the basic program.