SketchUp Cloud-Based Network License Server Console?

Completely agree! An appropriate name change would have made it easier to figure out that the network licensing system had moved from the Lan to the Wan.

At least make it clear in the online documentation about the “new” networking licensing system that you have moved everything to the Cloud. It only talked about ports you need to have open, but never said why you need those ports open.

I think that it currently is, but it was different in the @Last days - at work we, too, have a 5-user network license originally purchased when the version number was 4. We haven’t been denied upgrades even at the time when the minimum network license user count was 50. I find 10 a much more reasonable number than that - architect’s offices here in Finland are mostly quite small.

Anssi

Okay, I do find mention (on like page 3,) of the Release Notes

Release Notes:

  • Network Licenses

  • License management now happens in the cloud! This is huge - no
    more creating a shared folder on a local server and no more
    “license file” that you need to generate.

But that is still not “up front” enough, for upgraders.

Here is the article detailing what’s new: http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/3000068

We didn’t change the name for licensing because it’s still licensing, the name is still accurate. This was a pretty big change on our side with very little, for the most part, relevant to users. To give it a new name will start to confuse what it is and does. Really, the only place where there is confusion is with network licensing. We’re tickled to now offer the ability to have a WAN license and to check out licenses for use offline, but they’re still functions of network licensing. The most clear name change we can offer, isn’t really that clear to most; single user licensing would be “node-locked” and network licensing could be called “floating.”

We haven’t introduced the additional features for servers yet because, as mentioned above this was a big update with significant complexity on our side to make it happen in the 10 months since SketchUp 2014 came out and we want the server setup to clear when it’s available.

@DanRathbun Our current policy is to only sell 10 seat or greater network licenses, however if you purchased a smaller increment in the past (pre-SketchUp 8) then you will have a grandfathered license that you can continue to upgrade with new releases.

Thanks, I understood the “granfathering” from previous customer posts.

I guess I do not undersand why you’d refuse a new customer that is willing to pay 150 a year for 5 seats, rather than 95 a year for 5 seats, when they need those 5 seats to be floating ?

The increased revenue adds up after years, and across companies.

[quote=“jody, post:13, topic:3458, full:true”]
We didn’t change the name for licensing because it’s still licensing, the name is still accurate. This was a pretty big change on our side with very little, for the most part, relevant to users. To give it a new name will start to confuse what it is and does. Really, the only place where there is confusion is with network licensing. We’re tickled to now offer the ability to have a WAN license and to check out licenses for use offline, but they’re still functions of network licensing. The most clear name change we can offer, isn’t really that clear to most; single user licensing would be “node-locked” and network licensing could be called “floating.” [/quote]

You are arguing about technical reasons & nitty details, that cause you and your team to think a certain way. (I know it uses network communication protocol, and still is a form of network licensing.)

But your arguing the point, proves “you do not get it.”

It is not about what you think nor what your team believes. It is about what the customers believe. It is about how customers think they should be treated, and informed of such fundamental changes.

My suggestion of changing the name, is a public relations signal that things have changed. It’s a courtesy.

Anyway in another thread a customer explains more what they need:
Configuring proxy server for “network” license

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we have got stuck here the same way, we already procured 120 licences and came to know about the cloud story.
Its not possible to use internet directly on clients pc.
there must be provision or facility of using local server as well.

I too believe some sort of administrative interface for licenses should be a top priority for SU2015. Although cloud licensing is presented as a positive it currently is a negative. I understand there’s a hurdle with an all new system, and that in the long run this is for the better, but right now it feels underdeveloped and cripples the bigger studios with many licenses.
I sincerely hope we get some sort of time frame for when we can expect an update.

I’d like the correct ip and/or url, I opened the specified port on mu Juniper (hardware) firewall but I need to set my untrusted destination to ‘any ip’, that’s a little much in my opinion (less secure).

I was hoping I could get the specific ip-nr. and/or url (domain), so I could set that as the only allowed untrusted destination traffic for the Sketchup 2015 Pro license check.

with kind regards, Tim.

[quote=“apoc, post:18, topic:3458, full:true”]
I was hoping I could get the specific ip-nr. and/or url (domain), so I could set that as the only allowed untrusted destination traffic for the Sketchup 2015 Pro license check.[/quote]

• Ports: 80/8080/443/5053/50530
• Domain: *.sketchup.com

I can’t use ‘*.’ that’s my problem (failed dns lookup) :’(

try the following instead:

license[N].sketchup.com

with [N] = 1 to 6

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awesome, that works perfect, you made my day…

additional question:
is TCP as a ‘Transport protocol’ good enough for the ports 80, 8080, 443, 5053 & 50530 or should I add UDP also?

with kind regards

am not sure but TCP/IP is probably sufficient, just try it… if it doesn’t work you will notice :wink:

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it does work with only tcp, I thought maybe it could be preferable to use udp also, but if it’s not needed…
Can’t find any info or advise what transport protocol you should use, so I tried tcp only at first and this seems sufficient, I was just curious though.

any news concerning this issue?

if not, could you in the meanwhile move from the recently used ports 5053/50530 to the standard port 80 (http) which is never blocked and works via a proxy also?

Although the cloud based network license is great, there is room for improvement:

  • We want to see who is using a license
  • We want to see how many licenses are in use
  • We want to be able to deny license checkout and/or control the time a
    license can be checked out
  • Using exotic ports 5053 and 50530 is fine when you’re in your
    own LAN, but those port are likely to be blocked in a lot of other places…
  • Some security folks are freaked out by the thought of having to allow exotic ports to all subdomains of sketchup.com. Isn’t it possible to enumerate the few servers that are involved?

Thanks for listening.

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anything new?

I too believe some sort of administrative interface for licenses should be a top priority for SU2015. Although cloud licensing is presented as a positive it currently is a negative. I understand there’s a hurdle with an all new system, and that in the long run this is for the better, but right now it feels underdeveloped and cripples the bigger studios with many licenses.
I sincerely hope we get some sort of time frame for when we can expect an update