Same SketchUp you love, a new way to buy

*This statement requires a fact check.

SketchUp boasts to have more than 42+ million active users with 100 million + downloads a year, and Blender says they have 8+ million downloads a year. Both are their public statements. So not even close.

Not to discredit Blender, but the software is made for the use for very different users. Most instances that I see where SketchUp user (architects, interior designers, landscape designers) migrate to Blender is only for rendering purposes. Then they say goodbye Blender, when they find out Twinmotion is also free and 10x more simple :smiley:

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Surprised you have not jumped Adobe subscription and gone to Affinity … Trimble going the Abode road too, after Autodesk gouging not going to get burnt again… so I am looking at alternatives this year…hell presentations are easier in Powerpoint than Layout…

PS, better turn off my autorenew setting on my account so I dont get rolled into the subscription model by default

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Count me as an Affinity convert. Still own Creative Cloud, but never use it. Photo and Design are great.

Even though I beta tested v1 of Photoshop, I feel Adobe asking for $60/month is ridiculous. Only the rich and corporations can afford it. FWIW, I went to discontinue my CC subscription, and they offered it to me for $25/mon. What!

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Architect here Chip, Blender is amazing but I need DWG compatibility [export / import] Dimensions, text notes, etc eetc…

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Yeah, SU counts every page refresh on their web product a download. :smile:

A quick way to look at it is by the number of available tutorials for each platform. A quick Google search for “Blender tutorial” yields 70M results. “SketchUp tutorial” yields 16M. A huge disparity.

So, on one hand you’re saying there are over 100+ million downloads per year, then you’re telling me most downloads are by architects? LOL! Sorry, I don’t believe it for a second.

And there are still many architects who use Blender to model and render their scenes. There are some really great architectural addons that come with Blender, and 3rd party ones are fantastic. The only thing missing is Layout-- which I’ve already addressed.

Twinmotion, free? You might want to check your facts:

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I use Affinity Designer on one mac without Adobe CC to support SketchUp/Modo. I use Adobe CC on main workstations. Have used Photoshop and Illustrator from the beginning (1990). I do also work with InDesign, Premiere Pro, After Effects, Lightroom and other CC applications so even Adobe CC is expensive it gives me a good value.

I don’t know about dimensioning, but there is DWG import available for Blender:

How to import dwg files into blender - archvizblender!

And if you need Layout, then you’ll have to export from Blender. Here’s a video of using DXF to create a quick house model. One thing to note, unlike SketchUp, Blender’s “symbols” cut entirely through a solid wall.

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Looks like that thread goes in the direction blender vs. sketchup.
IMVHO a usless discussion - here in germany we say in that case:
You compare apples to pears or these are 2 different pairs of shoes.
Just my two (worthless) euro-cent.

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We would love to switch to Blender, unfortunately we are heavily reliant on 3rd party plugins (such as Enscape) for 360°s, VR standalone exports and the such. :neutral_face:

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The number was given excluding SketchUp Web, Free and Shop users.

Are you trolling or what?

  1. If I made a software product called “Microwave” and only had 1 user, I still would get 23M search results.
  2. Search term “tutorial” will give you mostly results in English. Even if you specify “Blender 2.8 totorial” vs “SketchUp 2020 tutorial” you would get a difference of 2M vs 6M results.
  3. You can also argue that Blender users watch a lot more tutorial videos to get to a proficient level for their needs.

I don’t disagree that you can use Blender well for ArchViz, there might even come a time where you could use it for CAD work, but it’s not even close to a standard tool for architects now. Most students will learn SketchUp, AutoCAD, Revit, Rhino, Grasshopper, 3ds Max, V-ray and Photoshop first, as they are the most demanded tools in the job market. Only then they would consider Blender for some interactive presentations or their freelance ArchViz work.

Didn’t see an option to buy Twinmotion in the landing page, so didn’t notice changes. Nice to see that the price is a lot cheaper, compared to Lumion.

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And there’s another thought - if you don’t opt for the subscription, will the 3D Warehouse stop working in the old Classic license?

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I’m out, I have been a user for many years and this is just a money grab for next to no improvements in the software

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Meaning, I will be able to transfer my 2019 Classic license to a new machine?

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Yes!!

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Thanks, Mike!

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Sketchup team !

With increased income,
Please develop more powerful tool !
but… How about $100 per year ? hehe

So you believe people are searching for tutorials on how to make their favorite smoothie?
FWIW the software name is Blender.

So, if you search for “Blender 3D tutorial” then you get over 19M. If you search for SketchUp 3D tutorial you get half of that. Still, not worth arguing over. I think we all know the trajectories of these two software products.

Trimble doesn’t have a great record-- or even a decent record, of communicating what they’re planning with their customers-- other than notices they’re changing the pricing, again and again.

Blender, on the other hand is fully transparent with their future plans. In fact they release new features EVERY WEEK. And, when you install any new release version of Blender (happens 2 or 3 times a year), it asks if you want to copy all preferences, startup files and plugins from your older version–and it does it automatically every time a new version comes out.

Blender does not compete as a full-on architecture CAD program. Still it’s accuracy is at least as good as SketchUp’s. And as I’ve said, Blender has no bill of materials or any sort of Layout capabilities. If those are requirements, then don’t choose Blender.

And for the record, I don’t consider SketchUp a true CAD program either as it approximates curved surfaces with polylines. FormZ is true CAD. Still, SU is good enough for most documentation purposes as long as you don’t need to spec a fillet. Still, I’m sure there are people out there still using Quark Express.

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Exactly what is your relationship with the Blender product?

Is it possible to stop such sensless discussion please - its not a blender promotion thread.
For me is sketchup like driving a BMW and blender is like driving a mercedes - i could compare both cars due driving company cars - mercedes usability is a horror.

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Yep, it is a sad day but I felt it was coming. I’m on SUPro 2018 and always thought I was missing something looking at 2019 and 2020. I just could not see any justification in upgrading. I love SUPro and Layout. It has enhanced my career and reputation since 2006 but it has more and more felt like an old banger. I won’t subscribe as the idea sounds like a rip-off and apparently you can keep using your licence until your hardware or OSX outdates it. My Mac is still holding up after 7 years but I’m thinking I may hold onto it when I replace it simply for SU (if possible). I think Trimble have just committed career suicide! Now to start looking for an alternate to SUPro and Layout. Can’t they sell up to someone who actually loves the product and wants to get it to level pegging with rivals or even push it further ahead? I would happily pay more for a new licence then!!

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