Couldn’t agree more (and poor/buggy text handling is a major failing in a program that relies on it). Unfortunately, past performance indicates that a year down the line there will still be these Layout annoyances/bugs and why I won’t buy into a subscription.
It was more the pricing model than a comparison of their respective abilities. There are better pricing approaches available than the one being imposed on us.
I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you.
Ok, this is your move, mine is that in the future I will use another 3d modelling tool
I’m no marketing genius and I’ll be the first to admit that but I do have a very simple question.
Why has so much energy, time and effort been dumped into the web based version of SketchUp when it is a FREE product and does little to nothing for the bottom line?
When that same effort could have been devoted to improving Layout (part of the SketchUp Pro package) and that would almost certainly bring on more paying customers and more profits. If Trimble needs more money from SketchUp they should really focus on the one thing that would make that happen, not on a FREE product that no one really wants or needs.
I’ve been saying this for three or four years now. Fix Layout, and SketchUp will become unbeatable and unstoppable.
It’s free because it’s being used as a test platform. Trials and errors to try to port SketchUp Pro to online only. Well that is how I read it anyway.
Those who buy subscription, also can use the full SketchUp Web version - just like you would when buying SketchUp Shop.
I’d say it gives better access to SketchUp. No need to install anything, just launch the app and start modeling. It fits very much in line where SketchUp works the best - for small scale projects.
It also gives better access to EDU market as a lot of schools around the world use Chromebooks and tablets. SketchUp is one of the top apps in Google and Microsoft stores for education. You also have less problems with installation in classrooms or at home.
I have found that the Web version is all I need for my smaller projects and when I need to sketch something, when I’m away from my normal computer.
For those who use Trimble Connect, it’s a better way to quickly view and edit models. The online TC viewer can be a bit clunky in navigation and only do collaboration functions.
The last update to the Web version fixed two of the biggest gripes I had with it - easy access to 3D warehouse and shortcut customization. The progress has been great!
I would still rather that solid inspector be replaced with solidsolver extension, as it can actually automatically fix all solid problems.
can this be clarified?
I think because Apple is going Arm as they just announced that they are going to start making their own CPUs for laptops and desktops. - link
Seems to be an easier route to make a web based version that will work for ANY cpu in a browser instead of rewriting their code to work on Arm based PC’s or for the short run that is. Make a free version for people to “test” and work on the reported bugs.
Trimble have lost trust of their client. Trimble change unilaterally the license and have sold more expansive classic license.
I reject without exception subscription for any software.
The 300$ is very expansive. I compare prices.
If you add PlusSpec BIM subscription, SketchUp (or CashUp ?) is much more expansive than Revit LT !
If you consider the perpetual license and updates policy by Rhino, after 10 years, Rhino is half of the price of SketchUp : )) !
Trimble SketchUp is +71% more expansive (license + updates on 5 years) than LastSoftware SketchUp who invent SketchUp
Trimble SketchUp is +136% !! more expansive (license + updates on 5 years) than Google SketchUp.
Google and LastSoftware had developed more SketchUp than Trimble.
Trimble updates are just a shame.
Of course I will banish SketchUp after almost 20 years as an enthusiast user of SketchUp. I am responsible of a lot of license sold, and I trained a lot of people and company during 11 years.
I have found a solution to SwitchUp from CashUp.
Okay you’ve posted this exact comment in at least 4 places. We get it.
Not at all happy SketchUp. You are forcing us to pay more for less. I recently paid US$120/year for a maintenance and support subscription to my perpetual product that I use occasionally. That’s acceptable and allows me to one day no longer subscribe yet still access my historical data into the future, providing me with a safety net. At $US120, I keep paying year after year. I will not be paying US$299/year for the privilege of losing access as soon as my subscription concludes.
I believe this is the end of a long relationship. Goodbye Sketchup.
more… on Facebook too, at least 3 other locations
Blender is sensitive here ?
BLENDER ! BLENDER ! BLENDER !
I’m out. Good while it lasted. Little trust, that is the problem.
I have used Sketchup ever since it’s inception long before even the Google days. It has been a constant source of pleasure and creativity for me. The horrible web based Sketchup is a seriously bad joke of questionable functionality. As a seventy eight year old retiree living on a pension subscription is out of the question. I can no longer continue.
Like many here I cannot help but feel that the arguments given by software developers that subscription is to the user’s advantage are entirely specious and without justification. A subscription that is slightly less per year than half the outright purchase is quite frankly outrageous.
Even the ghastly Adobe rents Photoshop, Bridge and Lightroom combined at approximately half the price you intend to extract from your users. I use the word ‘extract’ quite intentionally.
Sad, sad, sad …
So far the Apple ARM announcement is only a hint or rumor to be announced at WWDC in a couple of weeks, it isn’t official from Apple. We’re not privy to anything Apple announces anymore-so than the rest of the developers so we don’t have any reason to design for ARM at this point and even less reason years ago when we initially released the web version.
We don’t have any products released to test and report bugs. The products we release have a beta, that’s when testing happens. At this point SketchUp Web and SketchUp Desktop are very similar, they share some code, but they’re also products each trying to serve their own purpose.
Truly, the web version is an attempt to make it more accessible to more people. As @Speaker had suggested above, it makes SketchUp available in schools and it creates a version that works on Linux.
The web version also works on ARM computers, such as the Surface Pro X. It would presumably work on a hypothetical ARM based MacBook, so long as Apple make Safari handle WebGL well enough.
It does work great on my daughter’s Chromebook, true there.
So are you saying that as a authorized Apple developer you had NO knowledge of Apple’s upcoming switch to ARM for some of their products?