Medeek Floor

I am starting this new discussion thread as a fork from the Medeek Truss Plugin thread since the Medeek Floor extension will now become a stand alone extension/plugin.

Its icon(s) will be:


This new plugin will ultimately replace the floor joist/truss module currently found in the truss plugin.

Similar to the complex roof module the designer will be able to create any polygon shaped floor outline, and edit the shape by moving/adjusting the edges.

There will be a tool for creating and editing holes within the floor.

There will also be a tool for creating polygon shaped floor coverings (ie. carpet, tile, wood, pergo etc…) with an associated label and optional sqft callout. These floor coverings will be situated on top of the sub-floor and can be individually edited.

Eventually the floor assemblies will also be integrated with the estimating module currently found in the wall plugin (this will be moved to the Medeek Project extension in the near future).

There will also be an option for gypsum on the underside of the floor with a user editable offset (ie. 5.5 inches).

I have a few more ideas for this new extension but I would be interested in hearing what ideas you might have that would make this extension have even more utility for you and your workflow.

Per discussion and input this morning from a valued mentor/adviser I’ve added a few more items to the list:

1.) A tool for adding in mid-span blocking where the user can specify a location, extant and type of blocking.

2.) A blocking tool (also need this for the wall plugin) which will allow the user to create special blocking for point load conditions etc…

3.) An in-floor beam tool similar to the in-column wall tool of the wall plugin. The wall plugin already has a beam tool but this is for stand alone beams.

4.) Option for cavity insulation within the floor assembly, however an additional parameter which allows the control of the batt thickness since it may not be the same depth as the floor cavity.

5.) With the floor covering tool provide a vertical offset parameter. I may also set it up so that multiple layers are possible.

I’ve been thinking about this plugin some more as I’ve been occupied with upgrading the javascript/ruby interactions within the wall plugin.

Some floor framing plans are very simple, while others are considerably more complex.

I need to make the plugin as flexible as possible so it can accommodate the more complex floor variants.

One issue I’m trying to address is how to best handle floor plans that have floor joists running in different directions within a single floor plan/assembly.

My proposed solution is to limit the direction of the floor joists in any given assembly to one direction. Then to allow for a complex floor assemblies I will need a tool to suppress the rimboard along any given edge of the floor assembly. This will then allow for the butting up of floor assemblies next to each other to get the desired floor framing layout.

This particular edge tool will have three options for any given edge of the floor assembly: rimboard, no rimboard, or ledger.

First look at the main toolbar for the plugin:

1.) Draw Floor
2.) Edit Floor
3.) Move Floor Edge
4.) Edit Rim Joist
5.) Engineering
6.) Global Settings

Most of these tools are fairly self explanatory, number 4 is probably the most interesting. I will allow the user to customize each rim joist per floor edge (if desired), or remove it entirely. This will come in useful where there are multiple floor assemblies abutted next to each other.

There will also be additional context menu tools (ie. regen floor assembly). One context menu tool I am thinking about adding in is a way to select a given edge as the starting point for the floor joists/trusses. This will allow the direction and spacing of the floor joists to be aligned to any edge along the floor outline.

There will need to be another completely separate toolbar and tools that deals specifically with holes cut into the floor.

Lots of little details to still work out and even though much of the code base can be recycled from the other plugins there is still a lot of work involved to produce a completely new plugin with the capabilities that I envision for this new architectural tool.

First look at the floor opening toolbar:


1.) Draw Floor Opening
2.) Move Floor Opening
3.) Edit Floor Opening
4.) Delete Floor Opening

Openings don’t exist in the Truss module as far as I know, correct? Could these opening tools be made to work with it too? It’s pretty much the same rules, though I can’t think of an L-shaped opening in a roof example. Cutting holes for skylights and dormers could really use it.

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Potentially this same module could be brought over into the roof trusses and rafter roofs, however cutting holes for skylights is usually done so that the opening is positioned so that the structural members are not cut (between the rafters or trusses). I will need to give this some more thought.

First look at the floor covering toolbar:


1.) Draw Floor Covering
2.) Move Floor Covering
3.) Edit Floor Covering
4.) Delete Floor Covering

The colors are a little bright for me, I may have to subdue them a bit to get the right look.

First look at the floor beam toolbar:


1.) Draw Floor Beam
2.) Move Floor Beam
3.) Edit Floor Beam
4.) Delete Floor Beam

If the floor beams align with the joists/trusses things are fairly straightforward, however if the in-floor beams are perpendicular or oblique to the joists this becomes a bit more interesting.

I will have to give some serious thought to this module in order to make it as flexible as possible.

So far this is a total of four toolbars. I may need one additional toolbar for misc. items such as mid-span blocking and/or a blocking tool, but I can address these items later once I have established the core functionality of the plugin.

Also for floor trusses I will probably need a toolbar just for creating and editing chases for HVAC.

Am I missing anything obvious?

For the floor covering module I think an option for 2 or 3 layers should be sufficient for most cases:

In this case I am modeling/representing the carpet and its pad.

Tile floors usually require some time of cement board underlayment.

Pergo and hardwood floors may also have an underlayment of some type or another.

Openings cut in the floor assembly will also cut through the floor coverings if they intersect. This will allow for interior holes within a floor covering.

Can’t wait to see this one go live for BETA and start testing - noting the message on your website ***** This extension is currently in development, estimated BETA release date 09/01/2020 *****

Development was paused on this extension at the beginning of March, I apologize for the delay in its initial BETA release. Development will begin in earnest again starting June 1st, with an estimated ETA of Sept. 1st.

Any update on the availability of the Polygon floor joist capability?

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I’m hoping to start back into the Floor plugin in a couple weeks.

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As we get to 2022… OMG!! is there any update on your floor extension?

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Sadly I have been so busy with the other four extensions I have not made much progress. Perhaps over the Christmas break I will make the final push and get 1.0.0 released.

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Looks awesome nathan, been building a gambrel roof with a bunch of dormers.

About to start working on the floor which will be using 16" floor tusses. It’ll have an opening for stairs.

So far I’ve done the whole roof by hand with components, with the exception of using the rafter plugin to generate a shed roof as a good starting point for a dormer, which I exploded and converted its parts into components to be heavily edited. The roof is as paramentric as my shoe laces.

Anyhow, the floor: I’m looking forward to the release of this awsome new addition to the BIM suite.

Thanks for all your work brother!

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If I can stop working on the wall plugin for a few days I will divert my attention to the floor plugin.

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