generally, I have all of them sitting closed, except Entity Info…
if the model has a large number of layers i.e. I have it open most the time but ‘minimise’ it if before running any extension…
Outliner I open cautiously, when I need to see ‘someone else’s’ nesting statutory, [I know my own]…
john
Whilst I use Layers and Hide/Unhide for controlling visibility I am increasingly preferring to use layers over Hide.
The reason is that the number of times I have accidentally erased something when I meant to hide it taught me that it is easier to put things on layers. They can then be locked and don’t disappear and perhaps I was not aware of it until much later. I also find it much easier to change layers as I go and that seems to help me organise better. I also find it easier to only have the layers on that relate to what I need to do - that seems to help to keep it simpler. My only gripe is that I have perhaps too many layers though I find that very helpful for setting scenes for export to Layout. Having the layers in an easy to find order when you have so many though is a bit of a challenge.
I am on a Mac and I don’t experience a problem with having Outliner open either. Thankfully.
I view Components/groups as the real “Layers” in terms of how other software handles “Layers” functionality. If you actually utilize the Outliner inside SketchUp its function much like Photoshop layers if you think about it like this:
SketchUp Groups = Photoshop Groups (Map icon)
SketchUp Components = Photshop “Layers” themselves
Layers in SketchUp = Photoshop Hide/show (Eye icon).
At least when it comes to smaller models.
How you approach this sort of topic heavily depend on what software background you have, of course.
It took a while to find a solution that works nice for me. The last 7 years, the Outliner is my main tool for organizing my architectural 3d models.
This workflow only has one downside to me; having the Outliner open slows down some plugins a lot (like really a lot). So when doing more complex operations, I always toggle the visibility of the Outliner panel. Of course you forget that sometimes… (maybe in v2019 this gets fixed-crossing fingers…)
@maxB can you post a (simple) example of that?
The option ‘hidden geometry’ in the scenes panel is not always understood when there is nested geometry involved.
I lack the time at the moment to make a small 3d model but in short;
It was frustrating at first but there’s a workaround:
Normally I maybe have 3 to 5 layers and one or more big hierarchies of nested objects. If the hierarchy is too big, or for large/multi story designs I sometimes split it up into separate hierarchies (separate top-level containers with nested objects). For instance ‘ground floor’ , first floor’ etc.
I am interested to learn more about SFB. Is there a website or resource you could direct us to. Thanks.
I guess you don’t want it in Dutch - google-ing on ‘SFB code’ or ‘SFB classification’ results in some hits for instance;
Great, thank you.
A common system in the US for years has been the Construction Specification Institutes’s 16 Division system and it’s newer 50 Division system. I believe it was originally conceived for organizing written specifications, which isn’t necessarily optimized for organizing CAD models.
I still remember the day I found out that. I was disappointed
Yes, this is regarded as a bug by some and to be seen as unexpected behavior by many more, but you are actually changing the ‘definition’ and therefore its appeareance in other scenes, just like you cannot toggle material in one scene or another.
this is not possible even with the dynamic components?
No,this was a FR a long time, even gotoscene in DC does not work as it should…
once I read something somewhere about it, I never went deep into this subject but I thought it was somehow possible …