Texture Transformation matrix

[Fredo6]

It is possible to get the [U, V] from a point [X, Y, Z] on the face (by the way, vertices or not). This is done via the UVHelper.

I did not find a way to do the reverse, that is, given an [U, V], retrieve the corresponding point [X, Y, Z] on the face plane.

There should be a texture transformation matrix between UV and model coordinates under the cover, but apparently, there is no method to get it.

Fredo

PS: Actually, I can do it when the texture is not distorted (even if rotated or sheared), but not when it is distorted in perspective.

[MikeWayzovski]

quantum physics meets extension?

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[eneroth3]

Not currently exposed in the API but I’ve also been interested in this. There should be a perspective transformation matrix somewhere hiding under the hood.

[Aerilius]

If you can get the [U, V] from [X, Y, Z] you can query enough information to reconstruct the matrix and its inverse.

I have an old code sample for the full matrix (that includes perspectivic distortion), but it is very slow in Ruby. Maybe it is faster when reimplemented as C extension. SketchUp’s API should have something like UVHelper.get_XYZ(uvq)

[Fredo6]

I am not sure that a scaling transformation can match the actual distortion.

Here are two situations:

• left: rotated, scaled, sheared → NO problem
• right: distorted (kind of perspective)

I tried bilinear interpolation, but obviously, it does not work either.

[eneroth3]

This is why a perspective transformation is needed. SketchUp’s affine transformations won’t get there.

[Aerilius]

SketchUp actually has the transformations that we need.

SketchUp’s Geom::Transformation contains a rotation matrix (to be precise, an “augmented matrix” with translation vector appended). Such a 3×3 rotation matrix in 3-dimensional space can not represent more than rotation/scale/shear. It would require a larger matrix to allow SketchUp’s Scale Tool to skew a box component into something like an asymmetric pyramid frustum.

But textures are on a 2-dimensional plane where the rotation matrix is only 2×2 for affine transformations. And one additional dimension would allow for perspectivic transformation. So we can abuse the affine 3D Geom::Transformation to do non-affine 2D transformations.

That’s very analogous, just like SketchUp projects the 3D model onto the view plane, we can project the texture image perspectivically onto the face’s plane.

[Fredo6]

Good explanation. I replied too early (without trying your code) and your mathematical justification is perfectly valid.

I took the time to make some test, and this works perfect

Here in the case where the texture transformation is affine:

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And here where the texture is distorted along a perspective projection.

The construction lines are constructed at integer values of u and v. And they cross at the centers of the white crosses, which is what is expected.

Thank you very much. Very helpful.

Fredo

[eneroth3]

Filed a feature request for native API for this.

Texture position matrix getter/setter

(Including a setter as well)

[Fredo6]

Thanks a lot Christina…

…though I am not sure this will be high in the list…!

In the meantime, I have adapted Aerilius code and it works like a charm.

I was exploring the concept of contouring a texture image (i.e. transforming it into edges and faces), and applying it on the faces where the texture is applied, based on their UV maps. I got it to work even if the texture is distorted on the faces. Not sure this is terribly useful, but was worth the check…

[j_jones]

This looks amazing… is it available as code or plugin?