# When I open an additional Layout file, Layout asks to update the already open Layout file. CRASH usually follows

**URL:** <https://forums.sketchup.com/t/when-i-open-an-additional-layout-file-layout-asks-to-update-the-already-open-layout-file-crash-usually-follows/265784>\
**Category:** LayOut\
**Tags:** bug, layout\
**Created:** [March 29, 2024, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/when-i-open-an-additional-layout-file-layout-asks-to-update-the-already-open-layout-file-crash-usually-follows/265784 "2024-03-29T04:38:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![william](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@william](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/william)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/when-i-open-an-additional-layout-file-layout-asks-to-update-the-already-open-layout-file-crash-usually-follows/265784/1 "2024-03-29T04:38:32Z")

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When I open an additional Layout file, Layout asks to update the already open Layout file. A CRASH usually follows.

Anyone else experience this?

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**Author:** ![PaulMcAlenan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/paulmcalenan/32/211206_2.png) [@PaulMcAlenan](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/PaulMcAlenan)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/when-i-open-an-additional-layout-file-layout-asks-to-update-the-already-open-layout-file-crash-usually-follows/265784/2 "2024-03-29T07:13:09Z")

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…nope

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**Author:** ![ateliernab](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/ateliernab/32/198399_2.png) [@ateliernab](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/ateliernab)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/when-i-open-an-additional-layout-file-layout-asks-to-update-the-already-open-layout-file-crash-usually-follows/265784/3 "2024-03-29T07:16:47Z")

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> [@william](#):
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> Anyone else experience this?

nope

what is your mac os version ? your profile says 13.8 but there is not 13.8 - ventura stops at 13.6.5

do you mean 10.13.8 ? high sierra ? that would explain the instability