# Twilight render replacement **URL:** \ **Category:** Off Topic\ **Tags:** crash, mac\ **Created:** [September 19, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311 "2025-09-19T16:12:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![skipmacdonald](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/skipmacdonald/32/142607_2.png) [@skipmacdonald](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/skipmacdonald)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/1 "2025-09-19T16:12:51Z")
I currently use TWILIGHT RENDER V2 on Mac Sonoma, but now get frequent crashes. Is there another program that gives at least as good rendering as TR that I can use on my Mac? ---
**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/2 "2025-09-19T16:23:24Z")
Enscape is popular and works on Mac. ---
**Author:** ![skipmacdonald](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/skipmacdonald/32/142607_2.png) [@skipmacdonald](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/skipmacdonald)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/3 "2025-09-19T16:29:59Z")
Hi Dave! Would you say as good or better finished rendering as TR? ---
**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/4 "2025-09-19T16:32:36Z")
I think it depends a great deal on how you set things up. You can try it out and see what you think. Get it from the Extension Warehouse. I tend to use Vray because it is included with my subscription but in reality, with SketchUp 2025’s built in capabilities, I caan often manage without using a renderer at all for what I need. ---
**Author:** ![PaulRussam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/paulrussam/32/218220_2.png) [@PaulRussam](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/PaulRussam)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/5 "2025-09-19T19:23:25Z")
My portfolio I used to get my current job, everything modelled in SU and rendered with Enscape > **[Paul Russam's Portfolio](https://www.paul.russam.me)** ---
**Author:** ![skipmacdonald](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/skipmacdonald/32/142607_2.png) [@skipmacdonald](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/skipmacdonald)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/6 "2025-09-19T21:05:43Z")
on a mac? and which version Sketchup did you use? ---
**Author:** ![PaulRussam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/paulrussam/32/218220_2.png) [@PaulRussam](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/PaulRussam)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/7 "2025-09-19T21:20:59Z")
Story I didn’t see that this was Mac related. Everything I’ve done is on Windows but Enscape on Mac seems parallel to its windows counterpart. As already mentioned you can get a time limited demo. SketchUp 22-24, I’m currently using 25 (on Windows still) with Enscape 4.11 ---
**Author:** ![francisquitof](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/francisquitof/32/191263_2.png) [@francisquitof](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/francisquitof)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/8 "2025-09-20T00:25:50Z")
> [@skipmacdonald](#): > > Would you say as good or better finished rendering as TR? Enscape gives a lot better results than Twilight, the problem is that it doesn’t run on Intel Macs with AMD graphics, it runs exclusively on M series chips. You can still use VRay on Intel Macs. There’s not even comparison between VRay and twilight, VRay is one of the industry standards rendering softwares, twilight was mainly for hobbyists. If you don’t want to upgrade your machine, you’ll run out of options pretty soon, most of the softwares have already migrated to ARM architecture to be able to run on Mac, and as soon as Apple stop giving support to every Intel Mac, Roseta 2 is not going to be supported so there are no reasons to develop software for old Mac’s. ---
**Author:** ![skipmacdonald](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/skipmacdonald/32/142607_2.png) [@skipmacdonald](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/skipmacdonald)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/9 "2025-09-20T15:01:14Z")
So, will this work? ![PastedGraphic-1.png](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/0/3/038f9e704576ab0b078c92e2f15d40faf6d9ab1f.png) (Attachment NEW LOGO for mail 2.tif is missing) ---
**Author:** ![skipmacdonald](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/skipmacdonald/32/142607_2.png) [@skipmacdonald](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/skipmacdonald)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/10 "2025-09-20T15:29:14Z")
Thanks Paul. Guess I’ll need to upgrade my Mac in order to use enscape now. (Attachment NEW LOGO for mail 2.tif is missing) ---
**Author:** ![francisquitof](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/francisquitof/32/191263_2.png) [@francisquitof](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/francisquitof)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/11 "2025-09-20T17:51:34Z")
> [@skipmacdonald](#): > > So, will this work? Not for enscape, yes for vray. ---
**Author:** ![francisquitof](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/francisquitof/32/191263_2.png) [@francisquitof](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/francisquitof)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/12 "2025-09-20T18:06:18Z")
> [@skipmacdonald](#): > > Thanks Paul Francisco ---
**Author:** ![Elmtec-Adam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/elmtec-adam/32/120483_2.png) [@Elmtec-Adam](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Elmtec-Adam)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/13 "2025-09-21T20:05:12Z")
It’s probably worth mentioning that v-ray and Enscape are professional pieces of software and they cost more per year than SketchUp does. I know many went for twilight because of its cost. ---
**Author:** ![skipmacdonald](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/skipmacdonald/32/142607_2.png) [@skipmacdonald](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/skipmacdonald)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/15 "2025-09-21T20:19:29Z")
Yeah, I’m looking at Ray now since that’s my only option with my old Mac (Attachment NEW LOGO for mail 2.tif is missing) ---
**Author:** ![Anssi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/anssi/32/105_2.png) [@Anssi](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Anssi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/16 "2025-09-21T20:20:21Z")
Your computer might be somewhat low-end but Twinmotion is free if your annual turnaround is less than $1M. It doesn’t have a SketchUp extension but it reads SketchUp files. It is somewhat comparable with Enscape (realtime, based on a game engine). ---
**Author:** ![francisquitof](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/francisquitof/32/191263_2.png) [@francisquitof](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/francisquitof)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/17 "2025-09-21T21:00:19Z")
> [@Anssi](#): > > It doesn’t have a SketchUp extension but it reads SketchUp files There is an sketchup extension, the datasmith exporter that includes live sync. To be able to use new features like Lumen, it’s required to have an M series chip, and honestly, Twinmotion without Lumen delivers very bad results. ---
**Author:** ![Anssi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/anssi/32/105_2.png) [@Anssi](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Anssi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/18 "2025-09-21T22:07:42Z")
> [@francisquitof](#): > > There is an sketchup extension, the datasmith exporter that includes live sync. I haven’t played with Twinmotion for a long time but I seem to remember from this forum that the datasmith exporter is old and has compatibility problems with the latest versions of SketchUp and/or Twinmotion. Unless it has been updated within the last month or so. ---
**Author:** ![francisquitof](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/francisquitof/32/191263_2.png) [@francisquitof](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/francisquitof)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/19 "2025-09-21T22:23:21Z")
> [@Anssi](#): > > Unless it has been updated within the last month or so It didn’t have support for sketchup 2025, but it has now. ---
**Author:** ![skipmacdonald](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/skipmacdonald/32/142607_2.png) [@skipmacdonald](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/skipmacdonald)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/20 "2025-09-21T22:48:34Z")
thanks. gonna give vray a try ---
**Author:** ![skipmacdonald](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/skipmacdonald/32/142607_2.png) [@skipmacdonald](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/skipmacdonald)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311/21 "2025-09-21T22:49:57Z")
thanks. gonna try vray [Next page](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/twilight-render-replacement/340311.md?page=2)