# SU File doubled in size & Required saving in SU 2020

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**Category:** Pro\
**Tags:** sketchup, saving, file, components\
**Created:** [April 16, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/su-file-doubled-in-size-required-saving-in-su-2020/268560 "2024-04-16T14:24:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![su\_user\_djo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@su\_user\_djo](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/su_user_djo)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/su-file-doubled-in-size-required-saving-in-su-2020/268560/1 "2024-04-16T14:24:57Z")

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Hi all,

This is my first post here 🙂

I had an issue last night where my files size went from about 90MB to now 177MB.

This is a large model, and basically the only difference was that I re-created 4 and 6 seat tables, and added material, made into a component, and then placed them in a dining area. There was no new 3D work created, and nothing spectacular that I can think of that would nearly double the size of the file.

Also, SU required that I save it in 2020, and I am currently using 2023.

No problems this AM, everything seemed to open fine. However, I did check the Model info tab and got this messages on the ‘fix problems’ tab:

CLoop (3842780) for CFace (3842779) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842786) for CFace (3842785) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842821) for CFace (3842820) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842830) for CFace (3842829) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842842) for CFace (3842841) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842849) for CFace (3842848) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842860) for CFace (3842859) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842887) for CFace (3842886) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842895) for CFace (3842894) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842903) for CFace (3842902) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842911) for CFace (3842910) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842918) for CFace (3842917) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842925) for CFace (3842924) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842934) for CFace (3842933) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842940) for CFace (3842939) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842948) for CFace (3842947) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842954) for CFace (3842953) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842980) for CFace (3842979) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3842985) for CFace (3842984) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843006) for CFace (3843005) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843013) for CFace (3843012) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843022) for CFace (3843021) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843029) for CFace (3843028) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843053) for CFace (3843052) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843058) for CFace (3843057) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843072) for CFace (3843071) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843078) for CFace (3843077) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843105) for CFace (3843104) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843151) for CFace (3843150) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843161) for CFace (3843160) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843168) for CFace (3843167) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843176) for CFace (3843175) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843182) for CFace (3843181) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843198) for CFace (3843197) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843210) for CFace (3843209) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843216) for CFace (3843215) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843226) for CFace (3843225) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843273) for CFace (3843272) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843279) for CFace (3843278) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843285) for CFace (3843284) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843291) for CFace (3843290) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843388) for CFace (3843387) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843394) for CFace (3843393) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843415) for CFace (3843414) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843421) for CFace (3843420) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843444) for CFace (3843443) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843450) for CFace (3843449) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843476) for CFace (3843475) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843482) for CFace (3843481) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843498) for CFace (3843497) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843511) for CFace (3843510) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843521) for CFace (3843520) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843542) for CFace (3843541) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843552) for CFace (3843551) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843609) for CFace (3843608) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843615) for CFace (3843614) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843621) for CFace (3843620) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843626) for CFace (3843625) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843631) for CFace (3843630) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843636) for CFace (3843635) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843642) for CFace (3843641) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843648) for CFace (3843647) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843678) for CFace (3843677) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843687) for CFace (3843686) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843693) for CFace (3843692) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843720) for CFace (3843719) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843728) for CFace (3843727) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843774) for CFace (3843773) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843781) for CFace (3843780) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843788) for CFace (3843787) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843795) for CFace (3843794) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843805) for CFace (3843804) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843811) for CFace (3843810) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843846) for CFace (3843845) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843854) for CFace (3843853) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843863) for CFace (3843862) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843871) for CFace (3843870) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843876) for CFace (3843875) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843898) for CFace (3843897) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843904) for CFace (3843903) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843912) for CFace (3843911) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843920) for CFace (3843919) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843926) for CFace (3843925) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843960) for CFace (3843959) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3843965) for CFace (3843964) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3844076) for CFace (3844075) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3844082) for CFace (3844081) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3844117) for CFace (3844116) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3844124) for CFace (3844123) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3844177) for CFace (3844176) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3844182) for CFace (3844181) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3844188) for CFace (3844187) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3844194) for CFace (3844193) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3844200) for CFace (3844199) is oriented wrong - fixed  
CLoop (3844211) for CFace (3844210) is oriented wrong - fixed

any ideas?

FYI, Recent M-Arch grad, but this is my first full model in SU, so I am familiar with it, but don’t know the ins and outs yet. thinking of basecamp this year.

Dan

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**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/su-file-doubled-in-size-required-saving-in-su-2020/268560/2 "2024-04-16T14:26:42Z")

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It would help us help you if you share the .skp file.

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**Author:** ![ateliernab](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/ateliernab/32/198399_2.png) [@ateliernab](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/ateliernab)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/su-file-doubled-in-size-required-saving-in-su-2020/268560/3 "2024-04-16T14:36:42Z")

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> [@su\_user\_djo](#):
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> I had an issue last night where my files size went from about 90MB to now 177MB.

sketchup 2021+ files are about half the size of previous versions because they reworked the compression.

so yeah, your 2023 file was 90 and your 2020 is 177.

> [@su\_user\_djo](#):
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> Also, SU required that I save it in 2020, and I am currently using 2023.

did it ?  
you mean, when you reopened your 2020 file in 23 ? did it show you a message saying something like “this is a 2020 file and if you save modifications you won’t be able to reopen in 2020 after that?”  
it’s not a requirement, just a warning that by saving your 2020 file in 23, then it won’t reopen in 2020.

> [@su\_user\_djo](#):
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> I did check the Model info tab and got this messages on the ‘fix problems’ tab:

yes. it’s pretty normal when working with a file in an older version.  
it’s a bit like translating. Take a text from 2023, translate it in 1800 english. and translate it in 2023 english again. there will be some bits here and there that require fixing.

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**Author:** ![su\_user\_djo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@su\_user\_djo](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/su_user_djo)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/su-file-doubled-in-size-required-saving-in-su-2020/268560/4 "2024-04-16T16:50:22Z")

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share the model? not really comfortable doing that yet!

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**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/su-file-doubled-in-size-required-saving-in-su-2020/268560/5 "2024-04-16T16:52:25Z")

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OK. As @ateliernab pointed out, savnig the file as version 2020 would and should result in a larger file. As for the rest of it, pretty much impossible to identify the exact problems.

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**Author:** ![su\_user\_djo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@su\_user\_djo](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/su_user_djo)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/su-file-doubled-in-size-required-saving-in-su-2020/268560/6 "2024-04-16T17:30:25Z")

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I understand… is there anyway to identify the line or plane associated with the nCloop or CFace number?and does that message ever go away? I don’t eant to see error messages, even if they are fixed!

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**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/su-file-doubled-in-size-required-saving-in-su-2020/268560/7 "2024-04-16T17:40:42Z")

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I don’t know that there is any way to identify those CLoops. I expect your model could be fixed permanently so the error doesn’t appear but no way to tell from what you’ve shared.

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**Author:** ![su\_user\_djo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@su\_user\_djo](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/su_user_djo)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/su-file-doubled-in-size-required-saving-in-su-2020/268560/8 "2024-04-16T20:52:59Z")

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Thanks for your input. The model works fine. It still shows the problems in fix problems tab… it hasn’t gone away. but all in all the model still is functioning.

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**Author:** ![su\_user\_djo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@su\_user\_djo](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/su_user_djo)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/su-file-doubled-in-size-required-saving-in-su-2020/268560/9 "2024-04-16T20:53:29Z")

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Thanks for the input.
