I’m not trying to use SolidWorks files DaveR, I’m trying to say that I’ve come from that background and need a few pointers on how to get my head around the different approaches.
Then start with learn.sketchup.com
I made that transition many moons ago, so my only advice to you is that you no longer have to think of parts and assemblies as separate units, just keep building in SU and as each part is accomplished, just make it a model or component. (Models stay unique, where components stay identical, so edit a component you edit all of them) The biggest mistakes I have made are to forget to make an item a model or component while modeling. Unfortunately, everything sticks together. You will learn how to fix all that. The other item that bothered me is that circles are polygons.
I have found that designing in Sketchup much faster than SolidWorks. Though the animation isn’t as easily done, there are extensions for it.
I just wish there was a good translation to CNC for SU.
The biggest plus with Sketchup is the vast array of extensions, most free to use. Plus if you are so inclined you can make your own extensions through Ruby.
This is a simplistic look, because I don’t really know how far you have come with SU. I hope this is informative for you.
SKetchup is so flexible and is used for so many different purposes it helps to know your use case to identify the aspects of the transition that are likely to be relevant to you.
You are aware SketchUp is a surface modeler. All geometry is represented by straight edges and planes. So if you are working with curves you will need to find a level of tessellation that suits your use. For exporting files with curves to a CNC router (I do this as well) you will need to explore the pathway of exporting 3D dwg files as 2D which retain the circle meta data. It can be tricky as the direction curves are made in matters. There are also some extensions that help with this.
For getting started the Campus is the right spot.
Of course there is Fabber.
I spent about 8 years using Solidworks almost everyday when I worked in the aerospace industry (Mukiteo, WA) and I am big fan of Solidworks, its a great product.
I then moved into the residential design and engineering fields as they tended to interest me more than creating tooling widgets for large aerospace companies. Fortunately, I still had access to my Solidworks license for about two years so I attempted to model (3D) detached garages in Solidworks. I was successful however I found it was very time consuming and just not practical and the parametrics and feature tree were sometimes more of a problem than a plus.
Here is an example of a garage I designed fully in Solidworks:
Eventually, I gave up trying to use Solidworks, it was too cumbersome and time consuming.
With SketchUp and some well crafted extensions I can create the same 3D model in a couple hours whereas in Solidworks this same model took a couple weeks to create.
You use the word Model a couple of times when in fact you mean Group. Just to save confusion.
Darn, that’s what I get for not looking at a session. Getting old is not for sissies Memories are just so fluid.
I had to walk away for a little while and in the meantime it looks like I have had some very helpful replies starting with your good self.
- Make into model or component. I suppose you can then use the components to repeat elements?
- Extensions and the ability to write personal extensions too
- In the example I’m working on, I would like to export 1 surface to DXF ; for 2D routing. Does anyone know if this is possible?
Your response has been most helpful thank you
That’s certainly impressive and you say that you can create as much detail in SU? That makes me happy as this is the kind of thing I’m aiming for.
I miss SolidWorks and I felt very versatile when designing with it, but its just too expensive for me to consider a home license for the limited use I now have for 3D modelling software.
You have encouraged me to get stuck in and learn the SU way, thank you
Thank you endlessfix
With Solidworks you have a modeling tree that you can go through and come back to a certain state. Sketchup will be more destructive in what it does so for small parts. I will make a copy of the base part I am working on and then try a variation. There are great plugins for chamfer but they are not as smart as Solidworks but in many ways they leave less headache with unexpected behavior. I have more experience in Sketchup than solid works but have used both. We use Sketchup almost exclusively for our manufacturing of equine equipment.
For DXF or DWG export use FILE/EXPORT/2D GRAPHIC and select your choice of file type from the bottom of the save dialogue.
Sketchup will create a 2D file of the view in the window. What you see is what you get. If its outside the window it won’t appear in the file.
In most of the cases for things like CNC, exporting from the 3D Model feature works better. 2D export splits all arcs and circles into straight segments while 3D retains them.
This is Correct, and an important bit of process to get right for the OPs workflow. Do NOT use FILE/EXPORT/2D GRAPHIC. When you are ready to send your tool-paths to be made into G-code for CNC, instead isolate just the edges of the object you want. Set the camera to parallel projection and set the camera position to top, directly overhead of your geometry. Then FILE>EXPORT>3D set output format to DXF. This will export a file with true arcs (not segmented) that a CNC router can use.
There are some further tricks to this process, but the takeaway is that it is possible. And as mentioned there are also extensions that can help.
SketchUp is a great tool that you can quickly learn to love. Welcome.
We use both SolidWorks and Sketchup side by side. Sketchup is our master model, SolidWorks ist for everything that has anything to do with “metal-construction”. We usually predesign in Sketchup so our SolidWorks guys know what we want, that makes the SW construction very quickly. The result is being reimported into Sketchup.
So - I kinda know both ways of thinking. What I love about SolidWorks is that I can pick any part or assembly and make detailed “layout-drawings” of them - complete with part-tables, materials, etc. Since you are used to that, Sketchup will make you cry every so often: “You are done - you can see your part - why is it so hard to get it on paper?!”
On the other hand - it is so much easier to actually design that initial assembly in Sketchup because you don’t have to manage so many files. You just add parts in one file as you go along.
Basically SolidWorks goes from small to large and Sketchup goes from large to small.
What might help your workflow is the Eneroth Reference-Manager. With that you can sort of simulate a Solid-Works-Like Workflow, because it helps you saving parts and sub-assemblies out into different files and it keeps it all connected. It’s quite a bargain for what it does.
Sketchup will never be anything close to SolidWorks however. Once you get close to production, you will need additional Tools - at least something like AutoCad LT to smooth out those crinkely curves…
SU is a 3D polygon modeler for fast 3D designs and presentations whereas SWX (or Inventor or Alibre) is a 3D NURBS solids/surface modeler w/ features, history, parametrics and model-to-sheet functionality for exact MCAD conctructions, there’s surely an intersection in purposes but they do not really compete each other.
@endlessfix I’m curious.I have an architectural background and therefore limited understanding of the process that @SolidBob is undertaking. However leaning on my 3D printing knowledge, I imagine that CNC routing is similar, except that2D components are cut and then need assembly thereafter. If my understanding is correct, then one would require a parallel projection of each surface in *.dxf. Question - is there a way of accurately obtaining a surfaces parallel projection that is not parallel to any of SketchUp axis? Possibly a related question would be - how does one maintain the same scale for each projection so that (after routing) everything will fit together correctly?