# SketchUp2023: Advanced Attributes

**URL:** <https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856>\
**Category:** Pro\
**Tags:** components\
**Created:** [June 15, 2023, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856 "2023-06-15T15:22:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![cgee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/cgee/32/180231_2.png) [@cgee](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/cgee)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856/1 "2023-06-15T15:22:09Z")

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I’m experiencing a situation in SketchUp 2023 where entries typed into the Advanced Attributes categories in Entity Info are no being retained? For example if I type 900 x 2100mm for Size for a door component definition, deselect the component and then reselect, the box has returned to a blank field?

Any thoughts on why I’m getting this behaviour?

Many thanks

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**Author:** ![glennmstanton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/glennmstanton/32/103192_2.png) [@glennmstanton](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/glennmstanton)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856/2 "2023-06-15T19:17:17Z")

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it’s working ok for me. maybe try another component? (maybe start with a simple box and see if it is still happening) or for example, if it’s a component which sets the size attribute internally (like a DC could) that could be overwriting it.

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**Author:** ![cgee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/cgee/32/180231_2.png) [@cgee](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/cgee)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856/3 "2023-06-15T19:55:19Z")

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Thanks Glenn

I’ve investigated this a bit further and it seems to be related to components created using the IFC Manager extension. If I create the component using SketchUp’s native Make Component then I can assign attributes such as size etc.

I’m assuming therefore that the IFC Manager extension places an override on Advanced Attributes but it would be useful to have that confirmed?

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**Author:** ![rtches](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/rtches/32/131827_2.png) [@rtches](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/rtches)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856/4 "2023-06-15T20:54:04Z")

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You can make a component with IFC manager. Ifc manager only sets the attributes of the ifc schema.

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**Author:** ![cgee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/cgee/32/180231_2.png) [@cgee](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/cgee)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856/5 "2023-06-15T20:57:36Z")

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I’m fine making the component with IFC Manager but I can’t enter size information in Entity Info via Advanced Attributes…why is that?

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**Author:** ![rtches](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/rtches/32/131827_2.png) [@rtches](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/rtches)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856/6 "2023-06-15T21:09:26Z")

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You **set** attributes, the component it’s already make.

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**Author:** ![cgee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/cgee/32/180231_2.png) [@cgee](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/cgee)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856/7 "2023-06-15T21:40:17Z")

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Hi, how does that relate to the question?

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**Author:** ![rtches](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/rtches/32/131827_2.png) [@rtches](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/rtches)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856/8 "2023-06-16T06:45:57Z")

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Look at this [Cannot enter price, size or url on component in entity info](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/cannot-enter-price-size-or-url-on-component-in-entity-info/203153)

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**Author:** ![cgee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/cgee/32/180231_2.png) [@cgee](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/cgee)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856/9 "2023-06-16T09:26:19Z")

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That’s interesting and describes a similar behaviour however the solution of making further instances doesn’t work in my case.

Attached a couple of screenshots. It seems that a component created using the IFC Manager extension (Right-Click \> Create Building Element) doesn’t have the SU\_DefinitionSet attributes whereas one created using Make Component does?

 ![IFC_Manager-Make_Create_Building_Element](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/3/4/34fd02cf0500a0c462ed1557dc1fdac3b6c7b982.png)  
 ![SketchUp-Make_Component](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/2/3/2376edd7250b84c46b730af0f81ab25fb5593388.png)

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**Author:** ![rtches](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/rtches/32/131827_2.png) [@rtches](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/rtches)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856/10 "2023-06-16T12:27:20Z")

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This is the reason:

 ![IMG_8885](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/5/f/5f0416f9e1c06e1ecf291578ae94dd3eecbf34ce.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![rtches](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/rtches/32/131827_2.png) [@rtches](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/rtches)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856/11 "2023-06-16T13:54:35Z")

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Your IfcBuildingElement must have a component inside it and from that component it will inherit the properties you are trying to change, that’s why it won’t let you put them in because it has to inherit them from something.

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**Author:** ![cgee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/cgee/32/180231_2.png) [@cgee](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/cgee)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856/12 "2023-06-16T15:12:23Z")

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Thanks rtches

So if that is the reason, what do I need to do in SketchUp to overcome it?

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**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856/13 "2023-06-16T15:34:49Z")

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What is exactly your component? A wall, window, door? Why are you using IFC?  
If your component is a wall you should classify as IfcWall not as IfcBuildingElement…  
If you don’t need Ifc avoid classifications

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**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856/14 "2023-06-16T18:22:14Z")

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Hi rtches, thank you for your further posting

Assuming I would like to use Ifc classifications, the components are not classifed as IfcBuilding Component, they are classified as IfcWall, IfcDoor etc. (e.g. the screenshots from the test file show an IfcDoor classification) - so no further forward.

I’m waiting to hear whether IFC Manager overrides the SU\_DefinitionSet and causes the behaviour.

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**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup2023-advanced-attributes/232856/15 "2023-06-16T21:08:54Z")

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> [@cgee](#):
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> I’m waiting to hear whether IFC Manager overrides the SU\_DefinitionSet and causes the behaviour

The behaviour is by Sketchup as says the link I posted. Try to insert the component from component palette.and it works fine. I tested as the link says.
