Wait until the next day…
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DaveR has a valid, commonsense point of view I agree with.
Someone has to pay, to host all that data and to (take over initially from the previous SU vendor) but update and maintain a system, that lets Users around the world in different languages and time zones, have unfettered access to this enormous repository of data.
Somewhere in the end an unfortunate aspect of our world, that something, somewhere, is going to cost someone holding the can.
We have had an amazing run and it is not over but we should recognize that having the access to upload our efforts and download ours and others efforts for free to us, does cost someone to let us do it. It is unfortunate anyone would expect all that for free forever.
Perhaps a question could be, what is the value of that “service” ? because if it was not there for us all to access, what would we do ?
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Just a user like anyone. No connection to the company whatsoever.
There is no unreasonable limit. All models are free. If 100 models isn’t enough in a day, wait a few more hours and get 100 more. For free.
Never said anything along those lines in the first place.
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That doesn’t make it a paywall if the “first” 100 are not.
Anybody can download any (public) model for free as long as they keep below this rather high limit. To me that sounds very much like every public model is still “accessible” for free.
While restrictions are never great, the OP demonized this action way beyond what it actually is.
- It is wrong to claim you have no access to specific models anymore (you have only no access for a couple of hours if you have abused the system).
- It is wrong to claim owners cannot download their own models anymore.
- It is wrong to say Trimble is taking away property (which free down(+up)loaders expect to be hosted for free).
- And it is quite begrudging to demand the same restrictions for all, while it is arguable how likely paying customers are to abuse the system (it’s rather an extra benefit for not scaring away those existing customers).
See it from this side:
- For modelers, it avoids abuse: Some one who downloads several hundreds of models is likely not someone who takes time to appreciate, like or comment your model.
- For downloaders it is a simple, transparent rule: By contrast, the big internet companies have intransparent abuse detection systems that suddenly lock you out of a service for unforeseeable time without unvealing the criteria by which your activity was considered “unusual traffic”. Count the days in a year when you download 100 models on the same day…
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Only if you can’t wait for the next day. You can download 100 models a day for 10 days straight without any restrictions. Once you hit 1,000 you wait for the next month. The paywall only exists if you want more than 1,000 models a month and can’t wait.
A valid question, though I don’t have an answer. I believe the thinking is, someone who is just scraping our warehouse for content would be less likely to pay for our software if they’re not even using it. I imagine we continue to see people abusing the system and taking more content out than is truly feasible then we’ll either adjust the terms of use, change what is allowed for paying customers… or as others have suggested, hopefully, simply start monitoring IP and restrict access there.
The one risk with that, if there is an office building (do people work in those anymore) with 100 employees who all use SketchUp and the Warehouse, they might exceed the limit for their location while it’s only 100 people downloading 10 models. But that’s an odd hypothetical.
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I’ve downloaded more than 100 models in a day a grand total of zero days. 
The maximum I’ve ever downloaded in a day is probably 15. I just don’t like restrictions.
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The topic is not how many you can download now, but how many you can download in the (near) future. The big chance is that they will bring it down to 5 a day.
I have (had) my models on it (and I think most people), because I liked it if people did something with it, and if someone makes money with it, it’s my concern and not that of Trimble. I could make it private if I don’t want it to be shared.
So I think they are bordering up the freedom of using a great program.
So, they are my models and not Trimble’s . I have a pro license and think ( and know) that should be enough for the upkeep of the warehouse as well.
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Just wondering… why would we reduce the limit to 5? We offer Warehouse because we WANT people to be able to download and use models in SketchUp. Reducing to 5 would ruin the whole purpose of 3D Warehouse…
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Only for prescription users is the unlimited, not for all. And as I said they are not Trimble’s models, so why would they restrict the numbers anyway. If you are afraid that your model will be sold and you didn’t like it… Make it private. Our put a price on it if you want to make money on it yourself. And give Trimble a percentage of that, I’m fine with that.
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Keep calm and ask yourself: how many models have I already downloaded? The new rule allows 12,000 downloads a year - who has ever downloaded so many models? A lot of excitement for a little change and a lot of assumptions about what might happen …
By the way, I’ve downloaded about 50 models since 2016 …
Just my two (euro) cents…
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Personally, I don’t have a problem with the new limitation, apart from it not directly affecting me right now.
I surmise that the apprehension people have here is because of historical occurrences. Like when subscription licencing was first introduced, there was a bit of an unrest as well, but we were told that they don’t see discontinuing perpetual licences in the foreseeable future. Yet, two years later…
New licencing strategies aren’t developed and implemented without a roadmap, which brings me to believe that we’re only told things to bring some sort of false sense of peace / comfort at the time.
May I remind you that the SU Pro subscription licencing was introduced with SU2019, while SU2018 saw zero maintenance releases even though it needed some. At least buy me some drinks before you try to … well you know the rest.
While I think that some of the fears of 3DWH downloads dropping to 10’s (or less) per day are just poppycock, the underlying reasoning it is based on, that I can relate to.
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You have to be pulling on my leg. That’s a pretty idealistic and simplistic view of the world. Some people enjoy creating shtuff for others. Others are actually trying to get something done and either have no interest in creating their own models and/or don’t have the skill set to do so.
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An additional point is that they are charging for content that people outside the company developed. Unbelievable!!!
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I already replied to this:
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Its a limit, nothing more nothing less, as you already find out - only a limit to stop illegal mass download of models for selling on other webpages. You have not to pay for a model to download from the warehouse - show me the price tag on the announcement of the new rules.
When you need more than 12.000 Models per year, then i would asmue you are using sketchup for professional reason and then you have to buy a licence or subscription to be using sketchup on the legal way.
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there is no limit for people who pay (subscribers)
the intention is not sincere, since if you pay you can access and download more than 100.
there you go:
I dont need 12000 models per day, its not about me . it’s about sketchup getting free ride out of other people’s work. also since last year you needed to sign in in order to be able to download, now there is a 100 limit, I’m sorry if I see a business trend here.
if these models belonged to sketchup, yes I needed to pay.
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I’m sorry that you’ve taken such a dim view of us to think that we have a nefarious intent. We have no reason to restrict it to 5 models a day, it would actually defeat the purpose of the 3D Warehouse.
Please take a moment to think about such things before throwing accusations and assumptions around, it’s too easy to get misinformation online these days and making false and baseless claims can confuse other users. )c:
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So…like I said above - what hobby (non-commercial) use requires the download of that many models in that amount of time?
They’re putting a reasonable limit on the amount of models you can download over time with the free version of SketchUp, most likely again due to people violating the hobby terms of use.
You can download the entire Warehouse if you want, just not in one day (Edit - actually not accurate - this is a TOS violation. But you can download a LOT of models). And no one in this thread yet has given a legitimate situation in which a hobby user would need to download that many models.
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My impression about your comments: I am against it because I am against it.
You can download 1000 models per Month with sketchup for free - where is the problem?
How many models did you already download - more than 1000 per month???
Noone has to pay for a model download form the warehouse- thats a fact!
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