SketchUp in 2019: where great ideas get to work

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#148

I was hopping one big update in Layout who would have changed EVERYTHING for me and for many users: Having plugin in Layout. Still not happening. I’m a bit disappointed about that.

And what about the SketchUp viewer on iOS. Version 5 doesn’t work for the last 2 days. Is this temporary? or down for good? I got a phone call from two clients this morning freaking out about how they will do their meeting!


#149

These different features wouldn’t automatically be compatible/interlocking just because they were developed in house. Coordinating it would be about as hard as coordinating between extensions developers. What could be done is to create one single feature that is a very generalized solution for what all these extension does, but I don’t know how much would then be left of them.


#150

Can anybody advise whether the new licensing system enables a user to install SketchUp Pro on more than two physical machines?

At present, I have to rely on ‘Pro 2018’ (with layout) on my (2x) desktop machines (one at home and one in the office - each of which gets used for about 50% of my time). I also have ‘Make’ on my laptop (which I only ever use when out on the road - visiting clients) - but this doesn’t allow me access to layout or various important tools…

[Please don’t even think about suggesting using the web version for anything… LOL]

Also, nobody seems to be making any reference to changes or improvements to layout… Is it any less terrible a user experience than it has been?!

Finally, having logged into my account to download ‘SketchUp Classic 2019’ - I find all of my payment history and account history has disappeared despite paying for annual updates for years! Does this mean we have to start from scratch with the 2019 release?


#151

Just thought of another thing, is the mapping image quality sorted now?

The change from reasonably sharp ‘Google maps’ to the unusable brown and green fuzz that happened not so long ago was a disaster…


#152

OK, just found the new 2019 download link in my spam!

So the 2 machine restriction still applies despite my having to be signed into my account to use the software… great…


#153

Good important point. I think whoever is in charge of community engagement should think hard and hopefully learn from this update ‘event’.

So many people have been confused by the lack of clear info…

Here’s my little story:

The first webpage I opened up came up with the options of 1) the Free Web App, 2) the Pro Web App (I **** myself right there at that point :smiley: ) and the Pro Annual Subscription model. Hmm… wtf I thought…

I couldn’t see any other options at first - So I would say SU TEAM need to either remove the SU Pro option from the ‘Personal’ (which totally threw me tbh) ‘tab’ or the Personal/Professional/Higher Ed/ Primary & Secondary tabs need to be much more vivid somehow - red perhaps?) Eventually I saw the Professional tab with other options, and my heart sank with the words ‘subscribe’ all in a line…

EVENTUALLY I managed to find the ‘Looking for a classic license?’ option hiding like some cheap unwanted we’d-rather-you-didn’t option down the bottom. I felt cheapened by seeing it presented like this, yet grateful you had at least allowed it to exist. I wish you had included this as an option up the top with the ‘subscribe options’. That would have helped greatly the initial confusion and anger felt by many who are venting somewhat to all this.

I’m sure SU 2019 is gonna be great, a better product for all of us. Please, USERS of SU, have some patience. In my opinion the worst thing they’ve done is fudged the launch of SU 2019 in the way it’s been marketed and communicated to ALL of us, but I trust the actual product will be fine. And please let the ‘dashed-line? is that all?’ meme die… It’s inaccurate and unhelpful. As SU team members have said they’ve prioritised other stuff such as the Trimble integration, VR support and a host of other stuff (non which I have any use for FTW but that’s another matter).

Lastly, I wish SU could have done more in their time this year, I want improvements and solutions to so many things - too many to talk about, but remember… This product (for me in the UK) is costing approx £100 per year for the core SU Professional. It’s not 3DS Max which for me in the UK is £1242 per year! or Revit which is £1740 per year… For me this cost is massively important as I’m self employed and still trying to make ends meet on a very tight budget. Let’s have some perspective on expectations here please.

If you wanna go free and use Blender or whatever else then fine, but at least be respectful, constructive and not ranty.


#154

sketchup has fallen victim to the professional community. Interior Designers. Architects of small and medium forms. Furniture makers, etc. sketchup has occupied a niche between large programs (cad, bim) and the lack of programs. Let’s be honest. Initially, he was not intended for this. He was perfect back in 2008. And it fully corresponded to its name - Scetch up! In 2019, developers need to make a decision, either they meet the needs of the professional community, or adhere to the original concept.

P.S. I want to express many thanks to the developers of this product. For all 10 years that I was with you. Sketchup is a significant value in history 3d. Along with leading products of this industry.

Interior designers and small-scale architects are in great need of a new product, or a rethinking of skechup. help us, somebody!)))


#155

Hi Joe! You will be able to renew your M&S OR switch to a subscription - whichever works best for you. Currently, we do not have a date when we will sunset the classic M&S upgrades completely. You will always be able to use the version you’ve last upgraded to in perpetuity, even if the day comes that we do not offer M&S anymore.


#156

thx for the reply.


#157

But the decision that the Classic M&S will be phased out is made?


#158

Because you need to be on active support to get a new version (which is usually once per year) and if you miss a year - you will need to pay extra fee. So it will not be just $120 if you miss a year or 2. At least - this is my understanding. (in my mind was always treating it as subscription)


#159

Yes. We will phase it out eventually, but we do not have a timeline as to when the sunset will occur.


#160

To be honest, I think Trimble just saved SketchUp. Or it would have done the same as many other Google products - just die. And with Trimble, SketchUp, which was good, became even better.

So you may call SU2019 a revision of market and commercial model to make it sustainable. I suppose. (which is not a big for users, but hopefully will make them stay around for years and years)


#161

what happens if we have to transfer to a new machine? Will we always be able to use the version last purchased and upgraded?


#162

are you all singing from the same hymn sheet …

this seems to be mixed messaging to me…

john


#163

Hum!!! This is very scary. Because Subscribtion is not an option for me (because I can’t depend on the web to work), this my cue to start learning a new software for the future of my business. That’s why I barelly slept last night!

I’m so scared of the future of softwares. With everyone going subscription method, the access to internet will become more important than anything and developper don’t seems to understand that it’s not accessible everywhere on the planet. It’s like if car industry switch to electrical car and remove all gaz station for 2020. That would be a good thing for our planet but I’m not sure the transition will go smoothly. After that very long and shaky night, I think I’m gonna become an hairdresser.

I really love SketchUp and use it as my main software for the last 10 years, but I have the feeling that they will put this software not accessible to me anymore… at least when the classic M&S gonna go away. I just don’t understand why a company would want to make a product not accessible to a reliable customer. I really don’t get it. I’m sorry SketchUp team. I sold your software to sooo many people through the years but despite your good developping work, I’m not happy about this bad business move.


#164

Indeed, I’m not happy with the idea of sunsetting the Classic license.

But currently with the new Pro and Studio subscription license SketchUp is available offline…


#165

The spinning beach ball makes the amount of productive time in Layout at about 20%. Will this be addressed??? No problem if you want more money. I demand better performance because I eat a lot of time waiting for Layout to catchup. I jokingly called the app Catchup rather than Sketchup.


#166

Subsciption has nothing to do with a browser-based online version but is a type of licensing which is now available for the SketchUp Pro Classic desktop version too.


#167

… via the contained Pro Classic desktop license only.