Sketchup 2019 Queries


#6

Have you tried adjusting the Scroll speed?


#7

I don’t think they fully figured it out themselves. Having to pay full subscription, not taking into account existing licenses, will be a very bad news for many users. So - let’s wait to see what we will be offered.


#8

Mmmmmm, think I’ll give it a miss then, for the time being.

This was the only change I wanted, for the zooming in Layout to be improved. Think I’ll stick with 2018 for the time being, then review it in 6 Months.

Mike


#9

Mike, it doesn’t seem like TommyK actually explored the Scroll speed option. Even on my ancient old MacBook Pro I see an improvement in zoom speed and like that I can control just how fast it is.


#10

Hi @DaveR

I guess I’m just dubious about taking the risk of changing it on my new iMac.

What has always bothered me is this;

MacBook Pro 2015, 16GB RAM GPU Intel Iris Pro 1.5GB, i7 2.2GHz, OS High Sierra: Layout works and zooms ok

2018 iMac, i7 4.2GHz, 40GB RAM 4GB AMD Radeon GPU, OS Mojave: Layout zooming slower than a dead snail. Very VERY Laggy when trying to zoom. Even when I spin the Logitech Mouse wheel at full whack.

Never understood this, and at the moment, I model on either MacBook Pro or iMac, then use MacBook Pro for Layout.

I guess I just want to see more feedback from Mac Users, especially the ones who have the same problems as me.

Mike


#11

Why not try it for yourself? You don’t have to uninstall 2018. They each install separately so you can try out 2019. See for yourself if you see any improvement and go from there. If you decide it’s not there, you can always uninstall 2019 and continue on with 2018 as you currently are.


#12

True. That’s an option.


#13

Just install SU2019. Then open one of your sluggish LO files in LayOut and see what you get. Don’t save any changes and if you decide against it, you’re not out anything but a few minutes of your time. This one is an easy one to test. Remember you can adjust the scroll speed in Preferences>General.


#14

I’m assuming I select the ‘Classic’ 2019?


#15

Right. Classic. That’s what your current SU2018 license would be called if they’d called it anything.


#16

Apologies for being a pain, but all I can see is ‘Subscribe’ buttons for Sketchup Pro.


#17

Use this link: https://www.sketchup.com/download/all


#18

OK, so done, and absolutely no difference.

Does not matter where I set the scroll speed. Exactly the same. Scroll the wheel, then wait for Layout to catchup, very slowly and very jumpy. And that is on a 6MB Layout File, with 1 page.


#19

Hmmm… I can’t explain why you and I have had different experiences other than to say it must be something different with the hardware.


#20

Trust me nor can I.

I can not even explain why my older MacBook Pro is fine, with High Sierra, and a brand spanking new much more powerful iMac is different.


#21

Finally, how do I delete 2019? Is it a case of just deleting the files from the Application folder?


#22

Just like removing any other application. There would be a few folders and files in the User/Library/AppData directory similar to those for SU2018. Those may need manual removal.


#23

Thank you :grinning:

Hey, maybe Sketchup 2020 will solve the problem :grinning:


#24

Hey Michael, Dave-

Some aspects of zooming in LayOut are improved, and some are not.

LayOut now has a preference to control zoom speed - this allows people to customize how quickly LayOut attempts to zoom in & zoom out. People with smaller, more efficient files will find this useful.

However, for larger files, or while editing a group, LayOut can run into performance issues which will result in lagging during zoom. This is a hard limitation that depends somewhat on the specs of the computer, the size of the file, and what’s on the screen during the zoom. In this case, the zoom speed preference will have no effect because the computer is already working as hard as it can.

The LayOut team is definitely aware of this issue and has been working on ways to improve it. For the time being, know that the following things will slow down performance the most: editing inside a group, having vector-rendered viewports on a page, and to a certain extent having large inserted images.

Thanks,
Marc


Layout 2019 on Mac Zooming
#25

Marc has clarified what I meant. My comments are about performance, of which the lag associated with zooming and panning are the issues. The Mouse Scroll Speed has very little implication on this.