# Shadow won't appear in Vray Render **URL:** \ **Category:** V-Ray for SketchUp\ **Tags:** render\ **Created:** [July 4, 2023, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-wont-appear-in-vray-render/234575 "2023-07-04T15:46:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![julie\_m](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/julie_m/32/185424_2.png) [@julie\_m](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/julie_m)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-wont-appear-in-vray-render/234575/1 "2023-07-04T15:46:08Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/7/9/79a908fe3151262436470939ddc0543978096063.jpeg) I have already enabled the “shadow” option in SketchUp and ensured the correct orientation. However, whenever I render the scene in V-Ray, the shadows seem to vanish. Is there anyway to turn it back on? ---
**Author:** ![Elmtec-Adam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/elmtec-adam/32/120483_2.png) [@Elmtec-Adam](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Elmtec-Adam)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-wont-appear-in-vray-render/234575/3 "2023-07-04T16:02:44Z")
You’ve overriden the sketchup sun position and you’ve also made the sun larger, which makes shadows more diffuse/soft ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/e/d/ed894ad84757f5fe5251ad38c41bd12382360fa3.png) ---
**Author:** ![Anssi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/anssi/32/105_2.png) [@Anssi](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Anssi)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-wont-appear-in-vray-render/234575/4 "2023-07-04T17:45:00Z")
Also, your floor is very glossy, almost like a mirror. ---
**Author:** ![julie\_m](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/julie_m/32/185424_2.png) [@julie\_m](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/julie_m)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-wont-appear-in-vray-render/234575/5 "2023-07-05T01:49:09Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/a/d/addc828fac442927807d20369a383b9c5e05151d.jpeg) Thank you so much for the reply. I actually tried the setup you recommended, but unfortunately, I’m still getting the same result as before. I’m still a beginner, so I don’t know a lot about troubleshooting in this software. ---
**Author:** ![julie\_m](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/julie_m/32/185424_2.png) [@julie\_m](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/julie_m)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-wont-appear-in-vray-render/234575/6 "2023-07-05T01:50:54Z")
Thank you for the suggestion. I’ll try to reduce its glossiness. ---
**Author:** ![julie\_m](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/julie_m/32/185424_2.png) [@julie\_m](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/julie_m)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-wont-appear-in-vray-render/234575/7 "2023-07-05T01:53:21Z")
Btw, I’m using SketchUp 2023 and Vray Next ---
**Author:** ![Elmtec-Adam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/elmtec-adam/32/120483_2.png) [@Elmtec-Adam](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Elmtec-Adam)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-wont-appear-in-vray-render/234575/8 "2023-07-05T02:00:58Z")
Is that ceiling light turned on? Can you share the scene? ---
**Author:** ![julie\_m](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/julie_m/32/185424_2.png) [@julie\_m](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/julie_m)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-wont-appear-in-vray-render/234575/9 "2023-07-05T02:24:25Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/e/3/e3f62cddf80ffa4973339f12725c31234caf7877.jpeg) And even if I would turn the lights off, I’d still get the same result. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/7/3/730b82edb5c67040e7da52d175e1938436cb978d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![bmike](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/bmike/32/225451_2.png) [@bmike](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/bmike)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-wont-appear-in-vray-render/234575/10 "2023-07-05T04:46:06Z")
The light looks very different from SKP to the render. Are you trying to use the SKP sun in vray? Or is that somehow how you got the SKP shadows where you want them, by manipulating the sun in the vray light panel? Can you share a screenshot of the materials browser with the light panel on? I found on a recent render I had multiple light domes that were active that got copied in from another file. Was really messing with the mood. It seems that the shadow you see in SKP is very different from what you see in vray - the SKP light and shadow looks like an early morning or late afternoon light, where in vray it is coming from nearly above or perhaps the other side of the room and what you are seeing is really the ambient light creating the reflection. When I setup scenes like this (just finished a bunch of exteriors and interiors) I will review that lighting by using the material override feature on the settings panel. I will keep the glass as glass but override all the other textures and materials so I can just see the light coming in (saves time, and lets you focus on the light and shadow). What I find is that often I have to flip the light or change the angle it is coming from in order to achieve what I want… I also use the vray lightgen tool. Setup my view, run light gen locally (I do all final renders in chaos cloud) go get a cup of coffee and then review them when I get back - then pick the best one for the scene and tweak as needed.