# Shadow settings & UTC

**URL:** <https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-settings-utc/145590>\
**Category:** Pro\
**Tags:** mac\
**Created:** [December 9, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-settings-utc/145590 "2020-12-09T18:04:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![simoncbevans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/simoncbevans/32/15904_2.png) [@simoncbevans](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/simoncbevans)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-settings-utc/145590/1 "2020-12-09T18:04:24Z")

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I am trying to get my head around the shadow settings.

I live in the UK and, at this time of year, we work to GMT which I believe is equivalent to UTC +0. But if I set the UTC to that in SU’s Shadow Settings, it looks like its midnight whatever time of day I choose.

I must have misunderstood it but I’m not sure how. This is what I see:

 ![Screenshot 2020-12-09 at 18.03.18](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/4/8/487e6a1d7ec7b105bf0de80e4a57c59cdd1cee59.jpeg)

What should I have done?

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**Author:** ![mihai.s](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/mihai.s/32/202022_2.png) [@mihai.s](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/mihai.s)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-settings-utc/145590/2 "2020-12-09T18:13:02Z")

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Set your Model Info \> Geolocation

> [@Sketchup 2020 - Shadows](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup-2020-shadows/141213/18):
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> You have the time zone set right for Poland, but does the time zone match the geolocation of the model? If your model is not geolocated, the shadows will show according to Boulder, Colorado, USA, where the time is, I think, 9 hours behind yours. (I didn’t want to download a more than 500 MB file to check just that.)

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**Author:** ![simoncbevans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/simoncbevans/32/15904_2.png) [@simoncbevans](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/simoncbevans)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-settings-utc/145590/3 "2020-12-09T18:23:15Z")

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Apparently you have to be logged in. So I made sure I was but then get this:

![Screenshot 2020-12-09 at 18.18.24](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/7/5/75cc65839ff4273419ae411af07349862bc7f4f7.jpeg)

Computer says no.

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**Author:** ![mihai.s](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/mihai.s/32/202022_2.png) [@mihai.s](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/mihai.s)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-settings-utc/145590/4 "2020-12-09T18:27:40Z")

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See if it’s works with logging out and in.

> [@"Sorry! You must be logged in."](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sorry-you-must-be-logged-in/139705):
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> I am trying to use geolocation (SU Pro 2020) but an error message saying “Sorry! You must be logged in. Please close this window and sign in to SketchUp by clicking on the Account icon. Look for it in the upper right corner of the modeling window.” I am logged in, as far as I can tell. What am I missing?

I think there are a few other discussions on this issue.

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**Author:** ![simoncbevans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/simoncbevans/32/15904_2.png) [@simoncbevans](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/simoncbevans)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-settings-utc/145590/5 "2020-12-09T18:29:47Z")

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Yes, that’s what I had to do. Looks right now. But goodness me, it’s a lot more of a palaver than it used to be in the days when I could select Cambridge UK from within Shadow Settings!

I usually don’t bother with locating my drawings as I just use sliders to get shadows to make the building look nice!

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**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-settings-utc/145590/6 "2020-12-09T18:34:47Z")

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> [@simoncbevans](#):
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> it’s a lot more of a palaver than it used to be in the days when I could select Cambridge UK from within Shadow Settings!

You could set the lat/long manually in Model Info\>Geo-Location. And you could do that for your default template so you don’t have to worry about it for future projects.

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**Author:** ![simoncbevans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/simoncbevans/32/15904_2.png) [@simoncbevans](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/simoncbevans)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-settings-utc/145590/7 "2020-12-09T18:35:59Z")

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Oh really? I’ll definitely do that as my projects are always pretty local. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-settings-utc/145590/8 "2020-12-09T18:37:20Z")

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![Screenshot - 12_9_2020 , 12_36_34 PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/0/1/01c7dc8d9c960f582b9d73911fd4a135baf01c45.png)

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**Author:** ![simoncbevans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/simoncbevans/32/15904_2.png) [@simoncbevans](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/simoncbevans)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-settings-utc/145590/9 "2020-12-09T18:53:29Z")

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Now you see, it would not have occurred to me to look for geolocation in a completely different place. I jumped to the no doubt ridiculous conclusion that all geolocation stuff would be in the same place! I really must stop assuming things are built on common sense principles.

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**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-settings-utc/145590/10 "2020-12-09T19:02:33Z")

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Really, this is the place where the geo-location info is stored as it is part of the model information. This location area gets filled in automatically if you insert the location imagery and terrain with the Geo-Location thing in the File menu or tool palette.

This stuff was here in Model Info before there was geo-location terrain and imagery to import.

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**Author:** ![MikeWayzovski](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/mikewayzovski/32/98346_2.png) [@MikeWayzovski](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/MikeWayzovski)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/shadow-settings-utc/145590/11 "2020-12-09T20:38:05Z")

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If you don’t want to copy paste latitudes, you can add location (located in the File menu) and then ‘clear location’  
It will remain ‘manually’ added for correct location, but without the snapshot and terrain.
