# Select tool lagging, making rendering frustrating **URL:** \ **Category:** Technical Problems\ **Tags:** lag, sketchup, selectiontool\ **Created:** [September 9, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/select-tool-lagging-making-rendering-frustrating/102806 "2019-09-09T16:09:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![neville\_fabrication](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b77776/32.png) [@neville\_fabrication](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/neville_fabrication)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/select-tool-lagging-making-rendering-frustrating/102806/1 "2019-09-09T16:09:29Z")
hi all, trying to punch out a very simple model of a shadow box centered in an interior window. finding that all other tools work just fine, excluding the selection/pointer tool, which lags for several seconds when i select it with the hotkey or software button. older models seem unaffected. my hardware is far from spectacular, but sketchup has never given me an issue with lag on this system over the past ~2 years. i did a windows 10 update recently, and had not used the program since. i have read here that some win 10 updates have screwed with the 2017 free version in the past. would love to get things running smoothly again so that i can get this render done. .skp model is attached. thanks in advance -john [0076 - rings true shadow box and display.skp](https://forums.sketchup.com/uploads/short-url/qj8p6tNvJanZrbXzxy0g7HJD4UV.skp) (690.4 KB) ---
**Author:** ![MikeWayzovski](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/mikewayzovski/32/98346_2.png) [@MikeWayzovski](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/MikeWayzovski)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/select-tool-lagging-making-rendering-frustrating/102806/2 "2019-09-09T16:30:14Z")
here you go! ![0076%20-%20rings%20true%20shadow%20box%20and%20display](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/8/6/861512e73b024cd0d25752305e21ca9fad2bea9e.jpeg) Note: I do not think it has anything to do with the model. Best to update the drivers for your internal graphic card… > **[Support for Intel® HD Graphics 620](https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/products/96551/graphics/intel-hd-graphics-family/intel-hd-graphics-620.html)** > > Support product highlights, featured content, downloads and more for Intel® HD Graphics 620 ---
**Author:** ![neville\_fabrication](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b77776/32.png) [@neville\_fabrication](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/neville_fabrication)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/select-tool-lagging-making-rendering-frustrating/102806/3 "2019-09-09T17:28:33Z")
mike, thanks for your response. although, drivers updated, still having the same issue. new program file seems to be having it as well. older renders seem to be unaffected. ---
**Author:** ![MikeWayzovski](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/mikewayzovski/32/98346_2.png) [@MikeWayzovski](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/MikeWayzovski)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/select-tool-lagging-making-rendering-frustrating/102806/4 "2019-09-09T17:31:29Z")
Maybe time to go pro… ---
**Author:** ![RLGL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/rlgl/32/44295_2.png) [@RLGL](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/RLGL)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/select-tool-lagging-making-rendering-frustrating/102806/5 "2019-09-09T17:43:23Z")
In preferences \> open GL try , disable fast feedback. ---
**Author:** ![DanRathbun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/danrathbun/32/500_2.png) [@DanRathbun](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DanRathbun)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/select-tool-lagging-making-rendering-frustrating/102806/6 "2019-09-09T18:38:20Z")
… _from the OP’s profile_ … > **i’m a furniture maker in NC, USA. i’ve used sketchup for years to render pieces for potential clients** and work out design issues. while my skills remain fairly basic, i love the program and am learning more all the time. > > License Type: **SketchUp Make** (desktop) [http://nevillefabrication.com/about](http://nevillefabrication.com/about) … _from the OP’s initial post_ … > [@neville\_fabrication](#): > > i did a windows 10 update recently, and had not used the program since. i have read here that some win 10 updates have screwed with the 2017 free version in the past. would love to get things running smoothly again so that i can get this render done. SketchUp 2017 Make is **not** a “free version”. It is software used under a non-commercial use license. Speaking of the elephant in the room, we all know that the misuse of this license was the primary factor that led to the discontinuance of the Make edition. > [@MikeWayzovski](#): > > Maybe time to go pro… Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![neville\_fabrication](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b77776/32.png) [@neville\_fabrication](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/neville_fabrication)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/select-tool-lagging-making-rendering-frustrating/102806/7 "2019-09-09T19:23:39Z")
Sorry if I’ve offended anyone, here. I had a technical issue that I was simply trying to solve. Apologies for my mis-use of the software. Totally understood that people want to be paid for fair work. I’ll consider subscribing to Pro or another program for my purposes. Thanks. -John ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/f/2/f2a121500b085ed60806607a82720b092d800bb3.png) [@system](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/select-tool-lagging-making-rendering-frustrating/102806/8 "2020-03-13T16:09:30Z")
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