# REQ Geometry on Sections shouldn't be cut away from view **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests\ **Created:** [March 29, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/req-geometry-on-sections-shouldnt-be-cut-away-from-view/265819 "2024-03-29T14:29:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JQL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/jql/32/8074_2.png) [@JQL](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/JQL)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/req-geometry-on-sections-shouldnt-be-cut-away-from-view/265819/1 "2024-03-29T14:29:31Z")
Sections in Sketchup work in such a way that geometry that is in the same plane than sections becomes hidden. The exceptions are: - Section Fill - which is displayed in the exact plane of the section, hidding everything behind - Section Lines - which is the intersection between the section plane and any face in the model. Why does this matter? If we are using Sketchup to draw architectural projects, the section plane is a plane we should be able to drawn in. Below are some examples of what we need to draw there: - Details - Linework - Hatches - Texts - Dimensions - Labels - Entourage However, if we do that all this stuff disappears. So, our workaround, implemented in all section plugins (section cut face, Skalp, Curic Section) is to create the section fill plane geometry and slightly push away from the section plane, so we can view it and work with, or draw in. This slight mismatch between the section plane we should be working with and the actual geometry we need to work with, is prone to a lot of errors. It is, above all innacurate, so this workaround shouldn’t be needed and all geometry that is coplanar with the section plane shouldn’t be hidden away. ---
**Author:** ![paddyclown](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/paddyclown/32/192339_2.png) [@paddyclown](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/paddyclown)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/req-geometry-on-sections-shouldnt-be-cut-away-from-view/265819/2 "2024-03-29T14:54:41Z")
Hmm, Here’s a couple of examples of our drawings done in Layout : ![$-cncp-01](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/2/0/2018c0b282fb8efd342ecc7f33602ab555c9fb2a.jpeg) ![$-cncp-02](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/7/6/763acb255f7af34f1f519486bf5ba3decb6c24d5.jpeg) Haven’t had any issues other than it’s laborious 😉 😃 ---
**Author:** ![paddyclown](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/paddyclown/32/192339_2.png) [@paddyclown](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/paddyclown)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/req-geometry-on-sections-shouldnt-be-cut-away-from-view/265819/3 "2024-03-29T14:56:05Z")
![CNCP Feuillette-21-vue intérieure salle-vivarchi](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/c/c/cc2e4fd98851e92ba5ed4267c908f9aae5d75f66.jpeg) & here’s the as built 😉 ![CNCP Feuillette-17-vue extérieure cour-vivarchi](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/b/e/bee0b465c668fb4691d95614a565d9a7cc7f6224.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![JQL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/jql/32/8074_2.png) [@JQL](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/JQL)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/req-geometry-on-sections-shouldnt-be-cut-away-from-view/265819/4 "2024-03-29T15:58:20Z")
I do mine in Sketchup and draw the least I can in Layout, but this is a Sketchup request, not Layout. ---
**Author:** ![paddyclown](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/paddyclown/32/192339_2.png) [@paddyclown](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/paddyclown)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/req-geometry-on-sections-shouldnt-be-cut-away-from-view/265819/5 "2024-03-29T17:17:04Z")
Ah, ok. My bad. ---
**Author:** ![JQL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/jql/32/8074_2.png) [@JQL](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/JQL)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/req-geometry-on-sections-shouldnt-be-cut-away-from-view/265819/6 "2024-03-29T17:36:38Z")
No problem. Great work btw ---
**Author:** ![paddyclown](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/paddyclown/32/192339_2.png) [@paddyclown](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/paddyclown)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/req-geometry-on-sections-shouldnt-be-cut-away-from-view/265819/7 "2024-03-29T18:03:01Z")
Thanks 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Wo3Dan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/wo3dan/32/7450_2.png) [@Wo3Dan](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Wo3Dan)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/req-geometry-on-sections-shouldnt-be-cut-away-from-view/265819/8 "2024-03-29T21:46:21Z")
> [@JQL](#): > > If we are using Sketchup to draw architectural projects, the section plane is a plane we should be able to drawn in. Below are some examples of what we need to draw there: > > - Details > - Linework > - **Hatches** > - Texts > - Dimensions > - Labels > - Entourage (_Along the same line of your request_) Once again, sectioning groups and components should be handled as if we are dealing with cutting solid objects in real life. Give the **SketchUp Solid** groups and components an extra material attribute and let that be the material inside, visible when cutting the solid. The material can either be the default section fill or hatches or whatever is used per object. (not to be mistaken for face materials!) > [@Better Solids and (hopefully) better fill](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/better-solids-and-hopefully-better-fill/62580): > > (The request is at the end! / fill with material) SketchUp Solids can be somewhat buggy. I would like SketchUp to treat watertight shapes with more respect before calling them Solids The program would benefit from doing so in more than one way. Solids need to follow certain rules (watertight, etc.) What is failing is the rule to have all faces in correct orientation. Basically there are only two types of solids: without or with voids: (the ones with holes through still have one surface: se…