Render software

Here it is in short, and maybe a little longer :slightly_smiling_face:

I can say for myself that as an architect I have been in scene composition and rendering for a very long time, you could say from the beginning, since the time of the Amiga 3000 and its Real 3D and Imagine, so I know what I am talking about. In the past more than three decades since I have been on Win, I have had the opportunity to use many of the common 3D software from different time periods, but now I would like to look back at, say, the last 5, 10 years and Sketchup, which I use by default, and with it its plugins for 3D rendering. Now, again as an architect, and not some super expert in engines, software and other things related to it, I can only say that for my concept I need software as a simple tool and not as a space shuttle console where I need a bunch of manuals, studies and learning to get in the end what I can get with a simpler program interface that ultimately creates the same thing. I have tried a bunch of things like, for me, overrated V Ray, Enscape, Podium, Twinmotion, etc., some of which, unfortunately, I also have a license for. Unfortunately, because I simply don’t use them anymore due to their excessive complexity. Admittedly, they have huge files with this or that, but this is not crucial in the creation of the scene, because for what reason would I spend a couple of hours adjusting the scene when at the end the result is possibly visually better than with some other simpler program where I don’t spend hours on it.

So in my work I turned to programs with a simpler interface that can achieve a similar visual effect. I worked a lot with Twilight render 2.0 Pro, which fulfilled all my expectations and requirements, because I think it is completely sufficient for me as an architect, and comparing it to the aforementioned programs, it has far more advantages than disadvantages.

Unfortunately, I don’t understand for what reason, the author stopped any development and distribution of the Twilight render and shut it down completely, so there was a big gap in that segment because I expected further development. However, I started looking for a worthy replacement. I found it in Brighter 3D, which was the only program that met my rendering requirements. Simple, with the possibility of setting materials and light, mostly a program that does not require a lot of learning, manuals and other things that would enable the end result. And so lately I’ve been using Twilight render and Brighter 3D in parallel, and when I compare scene rendering in, for example, V ray, there’s no big difference in quality, at least not if you’re not looking for details in 10,000 x 7,000 px images. Please note that I am not some enthusiastic freak who strives for perversity in details, but an architect who needs software that gives satisfactory results for the target audience.

That would pretty much be my thoughts on rendering tools. :slightly_smiling_face:

Have you had a look at Rayscaper? https://rayscaper.com/ - I’m the author, so I might be biased :wink: But I’m happy to get your feedback and learn what I can do to make Twilight render users right at home.

Regards,
Thomas

Interesting post.

Do you usually work on internal or external renders? Also, would you mind sharing a couple of external renders you’ve done in Brighter 3D?

Finally, I’m curious why you’re still using Twilight if Brighter gives you everything you need.

Cheers :+1:

Maybe you don’t know

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Regards

Yikes, thanks for the heads up. I didn’t know, where are you seeing this error? Is that from my website (www.rayscaper.com) or from SketchUcation?

Here’s where you can download it from SketchUcation:

Or a direct download link: here

Cheers,
Thomas

Hi

I don’t understand the question internal, external. But if I understand the question correctly, for simplicity I use a plugin render like Twilight or Brighter 3D. The answer to the second question may seem a bit strange, but it’s probably a matter of sentimentality. Twilight was the first render that fully met my expectations and needs, so I admit I got “stuck” to it through no fault of my own. Slightly Smiling Face
I’m preparing the renders in Brighter 3D for submission soon.

Regards

SU Ucation

Thanks, and sorry if I wasn’t very clear earlier. I was wondering whether you mainly create interior renders or exterior ones, as I’m particularly interested in producing exterior (outside) renders.

BTW from www.rayscaper .com when click on Try for free go to SU Ucation.

Ah, now I understand the question. Sorry I’m late. Mainly interior, exterior much less.

The recent one with Brighter 3D

Blimey! That does look good - especially considering the cost of the software :+1:

This is a working version without much tinkering with details, materials, etc. The final versions look much better, but it still takes more time, but this one is great for showing something that will be the result of an interior renovation.

Something from the initial version of the rendering of the future adaptation of the Villa on Hvar Island Croatia
Brighter 3D

I see where you are coming from with your simpler approach to rendering - and I can see you have some nice work on your website. :+1:

As I’ve said here, over the last three decades of spending time at the computer putting together scenes and rendering them since the days of the Amiga 3000 and Imagine ray tracing software, I’ve finally realized that the best approach is the one that’s least complicated and that you can achieve good results with, and that’s what I’m sticking to. I hope it works out. Slightly Smiling Face

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“Frustra fit per plura quod potest fieri per pauciora.”
(It is pointless to do with more what can be done with fewer.)

  • Summa Totius Logicae
    William of Ockham (c. 1287–1347)

Robert Grosseteste (c. 1175–1253) and Aristotle expressed similar sentiment.

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I’m glad you could solve the problem with your pc and Brighter 3D.

I don’t think that V Ray is overrated, but I understand it’s not for everyone, you must invest more time to get realistic results but you have a lot of settings and more control over the materials, lights, environment assets… if you learn how to use it you can’t compare the results from more simple engines like Twilight was, VRay can deliver extreme realistic results that for some people is imposible to distinguish from a real Photo, that’s why it keeps being an industry standard; if you don’t need that level of realism and prefer ease of use over quality, 3D Brighter is a great option, I recommend it to you on your other thread.

Hi

I just mentioned this to the author of Brighter 3D. Something like this has never happened to me before. Namely, Brighter 3D, after I installed it and bought a license, crashed on almost every second or third launch, regardless of the internal settings. I thought it was an incompatibility with the AMD Ryzen 5 configuration, but apparently it wasn’t. Why? Now comes the strange part. The more I ran it, Brighter 3D crashed less and less. After a month, it crashes (if at all) in one out of twenty launches and it seems to be getting better. I can’t explain this in any other way than that the software “learns” from mistakes, which is incredible to me.
Although it reminds me of a parallel with a similar case. 20 years ago, I had a Fiat Punto, which at that time was one of the first small cars with a computer called an ECU. Now, at some point, I decided to boost the engine a little from the original 54 hp to 80 hp, all according to professional specifications: intake, exhaust, etc. And now that everything was done, on the road and disaster. The car is burning hotter than before. Became from such a lively little rotten mare. The advice of the experts at the time was to drive approx. 100, 200 km so that the car computer (ECU) gets used to the new conditions and downloads the data, and that’s what happened. After driving for about two or three days, everything settled down. The car reborn and became a little beast.
The comparison may not be appropriate, but Brighter 3D’s behavior reminds me of it.

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Here, so I joined too.. Face with Tears of JoyRolling on the Floor Laughing