# Push pull problems **URL:** \ **Category:** SketchUp\ **Tags:** advice, pushpull\ **Created:** [May 29, 2017, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/push-pull-problems/45600 "2017-05-29T09:28:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SLB33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@SLB33](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/SLB33)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/push-pull-problems/45600/1 "2017-05-29T09:28:35Z")
Hello I’m a novice in Sketchup. I’m designing a desk that includes two indents in the front panel for decorative detail. I’m trying to use the push pull feature to create these. I don’t want them to go all the way through, instead to create two shallow channels. However when I use push pull I don’t get the effect I expect or want. Its driving me a bit nuts as its certainly user error rather than software error! Any help appreciated. Attached is a screen shot - the file is too big to upload apparently… . ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/3/c/3ce0ae3bec14ab9d629a6a940127853b918b005a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![filibis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/filibis/32/28737_2.png) [@filibis](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/filibis)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/push-pull-problems/45600/2 "2017-05-29T09:47:29Z")
Try uploading to [**3D Warehouse**](https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/) and share the link here. It seems there is a problem with the edges. Red lines i drew must be seen as a black line in your model but they look ‘smoothed’ or hidden (so not appearing). ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/4/7/473001874d7e0a4d9de11376549ac1716db74d7d.png) 1. So turn on your hidden geometries. ( **View \> Hidden Geometry** ) 2. Pick eraser, hold **shift+ctrl** and left click those ‘dashed edges’ that you’ll see. And then push/pull should work. ---
**Author:** ![SLB33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@SLB33](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/SLB33)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/push-pull-problems/45600/3 "2017-05-29T10:12:44Z")
Thanks filibis. I’ve done that and I’m stlll having the same problem. I’ve uploaded the model here now - [Desk push pull problems | 3D Warehouse](https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/4f65a6a9-7231-4c13-8965-684040fe8669/Desk-push-pull-problems?uploadsuccess=1) Thanks ---
**Author:** ![john\_mcclenahan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/john_mcclenahan/32/135377_2.png) [@john\_mcclenahan](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/john_mcclenahan)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/push-pull-problems/45600/4 "2017-05-29T10:23:15Z")
You are trying to pushpull a face which isn’t in the same context as the front of the desk. Double click on the front of the desk once to open the _desk7#1_ component for editing, keep double clicking again to open successive nested components unit you have the _lower desk#2_ open for editing (Check that you can highlight the desk front face by a single click on it.) THEN you can draw your rectangle(s), and pushpull it/them to make your groove(s). ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/b/f/bf4100af1bc610eb1dd6b8b7a108fefa1bf50be8.png) ---
**Author:** ![SLB33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@SLB33](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/SLB33)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/push-pull-problems/45600/5 "2017-05-29T10:26:09Z")
OK great - thanks so much for helping. Much appreciated. There’s so much to learn! ---
**Author:** ![filibis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/filibis/32/28737_2.png) [@filibis](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/filibis)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/push-pull-problems/45600/6 "2017-05-29T10:26:24Z")
Appearently problem wasn’t that at all, you just need to enter inside group (I assumed you already were doing that 🙃) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/f/2/f2a121500b085ed60806607a82720b092d800bb3.png) [@system](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/push-pull-problems/45600/7 "2017-08-29T02:26:28Z")
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