PC build for SU

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hardware

#1

I’m building a PC for 3D modeling, mainly for SU. What do you guys think about this setup:
Ryzen 7 1700
NVIDIA Quadro M4000 or NVIDIA GeForce 1080Ti? (How much better the Quadro is?)
16Gb RAM 3200Mhz (Is it enough? Maybe 32Gb?)
Samsung EVO 850 500Gb.

I’m accepting suggestions for making the setup better or cheaper (if the performance keeps almost the same).

Thanks for the help!!


#2

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probably not, GeForce GTX 1070 (or better).


#3

If you are asking about graphics cards, a good “gaming” Nvidia card will be much, much cheaper than an equivalent Quadro card, and cheaper Quadros are outperformed by consumer cards. Quadros are only good for applications that list one in their hardware requirements, other ones don’t really benefit from them.

Anssi


#4

Sorry for who posted the answers before I edit the post. Im building a system for SU specially and I dont know the best hardware to buy. The budget initially is 1250 pounds, but only for Mainboard, CPU, GPU, and maybe for getting the memory too.
Thank you for the answers about the GPU!


#5

Hi, I’m an architect and I use to model with Sketchup and make renders with SU Podium v2.5 plus. I just bought a new machine Ryzen based for home, and I’m using Intel at my studio. I’ll tell you my experience so far (one week of new machine only).

Studio Specs:

Intel Xeon E5-1620 @3.6GHz
Nvidia quadro K2000
32 GB Ram 3200 MHz

Home Specs:

Ryzen 7 1700 @3GHz (it uses to work at 3.2 GHz with the turbo)
Asus strix rx480
16GB Ram 2933 MHz

For modelling, Intel Xeon is so much better so far. I don’t know if it’s because of the compatibility between Sketchup and Intel or something else, but it takes so much time opening groups into the outliner with Ryzen. I’m getting crazy with it. I even disabled 6 cores of the Ryzen and I overclocked the other 2 to 3.8 GHz (Sketchup uses only 1-2 cores I guess), and still I had the same problems with slow opening of groups in the outliner. The file is not that big (80 mb), but I don’t know why it’s happening this, probably somebody could help me.

For rendering, Ryzen is better than Intel because of the number of cores (Podium doesn’t use the graphics card for it).
And for the graphics card, the rx480 is more than enough to move all the model with textures so fast, no problems at all.

So, If I would buy a computer today,I would buy an Intel Xeon with more cores, and the same graphics rx480/rx580.

I hope to help with this.

Any comments so much appreciated!


#6

I bought the 1700 aswell. In the future i’m gonna build a PC with an Intel, I think with the i3 7350k (almost the same single thread perfomance of the 7700k) to modeling in SU (uses 1 core only). With the 1700 I will try to overclock it, if reaches 3,8Ghz I think its good enough. I dont know a solution for your case as I dont have the processor yet. Thanks for your answer!


#7

Update: Yesterday I tried to use the 5-way optimization from the program All Suite 3, and it overclocked the Ryzen 1700 until 3.7 (3.775 GHz exactly, and in all the cores, not only two as I did with Ryzen Master) working stable. This is my first time building a Pc and I’m just learning and touching things here and there. As I’m not expert in overclocking I came back to default settings, because although with the stock wraith cooler, and with good temperatures, I prefer to have the processor as cold as possible.

The point is that after this overclock, in stock, I opened the same file that it was going so slow in SketchUp, and then it went absolutely fantastic. Faster than the Intel Xeon with no doubt. Then rendering with Vray and Podium is when you see the 16 threads making their job, and it’s quite impressive.

So, I changed my mind. I would buy the same Ryzen system again. Enjoy yours!

Thanks for the answer


#8

Sketchup is basically single-threaded so a dual or quad core CPU is fine…Additional cores wont help you unless you’re doing rendering (but note that good rendering programs these days can use GPU or CPU (or both) so do your research if you want to render).

Intel i5 7600 would be great. i7 7700k would be slightly better. I dont know much about the Ryzen cpus but if ou’re considering Ryzen then have a look at this article which provides 3DMark CPU physics benchmark comparison. Interestingly the Ryzen isnt very fast at this test until overclocked, which explains izanhouse’s experience.

Don’t buy a Quadro for SketchUp. a GeForce is better and cheaper. A GeForce GTX 1070 is fantastic and a 1080 TI is probably overkill unless you work on massive and complex models.


#9

Passmark Single Thread* Rating:

• AMD Ryzen 7 1700 : 1.750 points
• intel Core i7-7700K : 2.587 points

*Modling operations of 3D modelers are single-threaded.


#10

Thank you for your replies.

The thing is that I got that improvement when I came back from the overclock, so, in stock. When I overclocked it, it was the same. That’s why I was wondering if it was a compatibility issue, rather than just the processor performance.

Anyway, I render quite a lot, that’s why I thought that Ryzen was a good option. In Podium, for example, I cannot choose GPU rendering, and it’s my main programme right now for rendering, that’s why I wanted to have more cores.

In any cases, probably the 7700K was a better option, I’m not sure. But to be honest, I’m quite happy with my computer right now. Let’s see in a few months if I think the same. It’s my first build so I guess that this is a matter of experience as well.

Many thanks again.


#11

Hi everyone,

I found where the problem was. It’s the outliner.

If you’ve got it open, it takes ages opening groups and components. If you hide it, it goes super fast.
Even with the Ryzen 1700 in stock and a big file with a lot of edges, poligons ecc. It works fantastic.

Hide the outliner!

Just in case somebody else had the same issue.


#12

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