New iMac now out

So are we saying avoid the base model with an Intel GPU but have no worries about the others with Radeon GPUs?

I know nothing about Mac, but I have an Intel Iris and have no issues with it.

Interesting. But I am sure I have seen a lot of posts suggesting SU users avoid Intel GPUs. We even had this post when SU2017 was released: Important Update on a few Potential SketchUp 2017 issues on Windows

But if we are effectively saying that Macs and SU will work in joyous harmony whatever the spec, that would do for me!

I’m not saying that.
I am only saying that I have an Intel Iris, which is not the old intel family and it works. I was also just helping to punctuate the post you had trouble following.
Once again, I have no experience with Mac so my opinion on anything to do with that is useless.

you are citing me wrong.

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Apologies for that but I wasn’t sure of the point you were making. Hopefully @Box has clarified that now.

Re Intel GPUs, this is what the great @DaveR wrote a while back: Sketchup pro compatibility with Intel HD Graphics card. If he tells me to beware Intel, I listen.

I was referring to the infinite number of reports of problems on Windows with Intel graphics. There are so many of them that I personally wouldn’t buy a computer that has only the integrated Intel graphics.

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The Intel Iris isn’t the Intel HD, chips are not set in stone. SU doesn’t recommend Intel cards due to the many issues, but the newer ones are different.

I guess the answer here is not to be an early adopter. Wait for others to test the water first.

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There is only one iMac that doesn’t have a dedicated GPU on top of the integrated Intel graphics chipset. From my extensive experience, SketchUp plays nicely with AMD cards and every Mac we’ve tested on.

That being said, I don’t see why anyone would buy the lowest-level iMac when, for only $200 more, they get a machine with 4x resolution screen, a dedicated GPU, and a much faster CPU.

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In what sense? Apple has used AMDs in their iMacs for years now. Nothing early going on :slight_smile:

An early adopter of the new iMac.

You could be an early adopter of a puppy. That would be safer and much more fun. :smiley:

I really don’t want to be sold a pup…

tl;dr: relax, Macs are not affected neither by intel nor Radeon GPU issues.

Phew!

So it’s just Layout then…?

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I know what you mean, but it’s not exactly “new” if you know what I mean. It’s an incremental change using the specs and hardware that aren’t really new at all :slight_smile:

I’m with @simoncbevans on the Layout Issue.

Sketchup :grinning::grinning::grinning::grinning::grinning::zap::zap:
Layout :rage::rage::rage::rage::rage:

I wouldn’t go quite as far as demonising Layout. I do find it a very useful adjunct to SU. Essential in fact. I do find it annoying that it lags the way it does and there are other annoying features such as not being able to lock a move direction and often not being able to force it to move something where you want first time. I do find it a bit amazing that the software can be released as a professional pack with these failings in place but I guess it’s more complicated than us mere mortals can possibly know. Well, I hope it’s that…

Ah, I didn’t mean to demonise it. Just expressing my frustration with it. I rely on it 100% as I solely use a Sketchup/Layout workflow.

Can I add the ability to be able to rotate an object with a reference/base angle, and also to be able to dimension circles/arcs to the list of annoying features missing.