# Need Help with complex model **URL:** \ **Category:** SketchUp\ **Created:** [January 23, 2021, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/need-help-with-complex-model/150280 "2021-01-23T00:12:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KingMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e9c0ed/32.png) [@KingMan](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/KingMan)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/need-help-with-complex-model/150280/1 "2021-01-23T00:12:49Z")
Hi I am still learning this great software and need some help. I am trying to model a wheel barrow bucket with curve front, sided and bottom, but I cannot figure out how to get this done. Can someone help me. want to do something like this 👇🏿 ![Wheel barrow Bucket](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/8/1/81cd309e605c6a290cb0c05cc890bae144f4026e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![brianmowrey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@brianmowrey](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/brianmowrey)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/need-help-with-complex-model/150280/2 "2021-01-23T01:31:46Z")
The version in your image is very organic. Organic modeling, either with Vertex Tools or Sub-d extensions, is more of an art than a science. You have to learn how to “cook” the geometry. Blender is more of an app where you can find a step-by-step walkthrough to achieve a particular elegant, organic, “real-world” shape in mere minutes. But what about a version that isn’t quad-y or organic? Not very hard in sketchup. Just make a trapezoid. ![Screen Shot 2021-01-22 at 17.04.33](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/0/5/05e8ed53e2b5db66a9b081ac61352f2172aa870c.png) Add some big curves and little curves, and push-pull. Delete the top face. ![Screen Shot 2021-01-22 at 17.05.13](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/f/d/fdebadfdd2d3c14c983d9a3eab251ba8397e6ce8.png) Turn on hidden geo if you need. Play around with scale some more. ![Screen Shot 2021-01-22 at 17.05.33](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/9/4/9496ab2e19c0cc22eaed3728e8aceb7c70af7b7f.png) Make a profile for the flare on the top and the curve on the bottom. ![Screen Shot 2021-01-22 at 17.13.41](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/2/4/24362ab5c88b59d783de84e747a1e52e60ec9509.png) Follow me with the top edge and top profile and bottom edge and bottom profile. You’ll likely need to triple-click your geo and Right Click \> Intersect Faces \> With Selection, then use Erase tool to clean up the bottom. You might try Fredo Round Corner as a workaround here, but I find that native Follow-Me makes for an easier to clean result. ![Screen Shot 2021-01-22 at 17.14.07](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/2/2/229207298bf8ceeafcfded5fa3a7fdb984ea44c1.png) Raise up the bottom here, or go back to before the follow-me and experiment with raising it then. ![Screen Shot 2021-01-22 at 17.18.38](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/5/5/556c1c69105dd582e02acedec59fd3a17d2236de.png) Smooth your edges. Viola. Not terribly messy. Should be able to thicken it into a solid with Joint Push Pull or Clothworks extensions without much trouble. ![Screen Shot 2021-01-22 at 17.30.41](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/7/e/7eaefcb76bfb680fede74480875e7d846d5dd1cd.png) ---
**Author:** ![Box](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/box/32/235164_2.png) [@Box](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Box)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/need-help-with-complex-model/150280/3 "2021-01-23T01:44:53Z")
> [@brianmowrey](#): > > The version in your image is made with quads. It’s not really quads, just a more complex mesh, probably made with curviloft or similar. ---
**Author:** ![brianmowrey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@brianmowrey](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/brianmowrey)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/need-help-with-complex-model/150280/4 "2021-01-23T01:50:04Z")
I’m probably abusing the term according to the SketchUp definition. I’ll edit that preamble. Curviloft but with that triangulation?.. I more just assumed it was an imported Blender mesh to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Box](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/box/32/235164_2.png) [@Box](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Box)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/need-help-with-complex-model/150280/5 "2021-01-23T01:53:22Z")
> [@brianmowrey](#): > > Curviloft but with that triangulation? Something like this ![Curviloft tri](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/b/6/b697936fc55e1f852a06fd5b841df47e51c098e6.gif) ---
**Author:** ![brianmowrey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@brianmowrey](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/brianmowrey)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/need-help-with-complex-model/150280/6 "2021-01-23T01:59:36Z")
Right - I haven’t seen Curviloft selectively triangulate according to, like, profile angles, though. But in Blender or SU Vertex Tools you will arrive at that with proportional editing, was my thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Box](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/box/32/235164_2.png) [@Box](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Box)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/need-help-with-complex-model/150280/7 "2021-01-23T02:01:11Z")
We could speculate endlessly, you have shown a good way to do it so lets leave it there. ---
**Author:** ![KingMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e9c0ed/32.png) [@KingMan](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/KingMan)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/need-help-with-complex-model/150280/8 "2021-01-23T06:27:27Z")
THANKS @Box N @brianmowrey I feel alot better now that U have shown me the way. I will definitly try the curvloft extension and see the results with that. Thanks again guys. ✌🏿 ---
**Author:** ![brianmowrey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@brianmowrey](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/brianmowrey)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/need-help-with-complex-model/150280/9 "2021-01-23T15:45:39Z")
Right, curviloft can skin the whole thing with just four half-profiles (I didn’t even try the whole shape because I assumed it would result in twisting)… ![Screen Shot 2021-01-23 at 7.43.29](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/5/3/53217a14b9684bad50736c6add5baf1003408cda.png) But I don’t quite like the result as much as the follow-me method.