Layout printing on Mac

Dear All,

Has anyone else experienced very very slow print dialog operations on Mac OS. I select print, and it takes over 3 minutes for the dialog to appear. I select print to pdf, same delay before the save dialog shows up. After that things move at normal speed.

I am on a Mac M4 Pro running Tahoe 26.0.1

Thanks,

Chip

What happens if you export to PDF instead of printing?

Is your printer behaving faster with other applications? I understand that printing is mostly handled by your operating system communicating through your printer driver with the actual printer.

What is the state of the Output Override tick box?


If it is ticked, the delay would be caused by LayOut rendering the raster-rendered viewports as Hybrid or Vector based on the selection in the dropdown list.

Dave,

No change.

Anssi,

The dialog comes up quite quickly and export happens normally. Unfortunately, if I want to actually print my file to physical paper, the same problem is there. The print dialog box takes a couple of minutes to appear and hitting print (or print to pdf) stalls out for another couple of minutes.

I wonder if it is a Mac thing…

Tom

What happens if you export the PDF and then open it and print it?

Dave,

It prints fine. I have a work around, but I am still mystified as to why it is happening. The only process that seems to struggling is Layout. No other processes are running full out (like disk or printing processes).

Are there things in Layout like extensions that I can shut down?

Now that I have a workaround, I guess I shouldn’t care.

Tom

Are you using SU 2026? This problem has been drastically improved for me, just by upgrading to 2026. (your profile shows that you’re using 2024.)

In the past, I would use the “Pages” window to export individual sheets as PDFs. Then I would print. When using the print dialogue, every sheet has to be rendered. This has frozen my computer before I can even select an individual page to print. And of course, vector based view ports are gonna take quite a while. At least this is the problem on MacOS

There are lots of techniques that you can do to minimize the amount of time or effort the computer is going to spend trying to render vectors, but TBH 2026 seems to be so much better… that I haven’t needed to resort to these tricks and techniques for the past few weeks.

Not directly. There are some extensions that you might have installed in SketchUp that do some things in LayOut. Do you have any other those installed?

Yes, I am using 2026

As a M1 Max MacBook Pro user, I don’t have these issues.

Well…perhaps that is a bit extreme. Print dialog box populates instantly, but scrolling through the page list can grind a bit.

hmm how many pages are we talking about ? how much content on it (raster, vector…)?

not saying it’s normal. but what Nicholas and Keith describe is real, the print dialog needing to render / populate the preview. if it takes 3 min to show it on a 3 pages that’s worrying. if it’s on a 50pages document, all with vector views, it’s a problem but it’s not as unexpected.

I unscientifically tested this today on a hybrid document - 18 pages, tabloid, m2Studio Max, LO 2026, Sequoia.

File>Print - it took ~10 seconds for the dialog to appear. It took ~25 seconds to write the file to the desktop.

File>Export - dialog opens instantly but it took ~34 seconds to write the file to the desktop.

I would guess the delay is related to the preview that needs to be generated for the print dialog box to be generate?

Turning off the override and using Raster it saves a few seconds on the print dialog box opening, and it took about the same time to render and write to the desktop.

Hi @Chip_Cookie … on a Mac, when you print, LO renders the entire document before brining up the dialog whether or not you’re going to print all of the pages. When you export, LO brings up the dialog first (with the previews) and LO only renders the pages you select. It’s not that big of a deal when you have a small document and/or few viewports to render but it’s noticeable on a larger document.

As a matter of practice, I recommend always exporting to PDF rather than using the print dialog. You can still export to Preview from the dialog and print from there. I hope that helps!