# Layout crashing on macOS 10.13 High Sierra Beta **URL:** \ **Category:** LayOut\ **Created:** [August 18, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255 "2017-08-18T16:06:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![trifster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/trifster/32/36736_2.png) [@trifster](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/trifster)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255/1 "2017-08-18T16:06:21Z")
Hi all, any news if there is a macOS High Sierra compatible version of Layout? Looks like layout isn’t handling the changes in dyld that high Sierra brings. Thanks trifster ---
**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255/2 "2017-08-18T16:08:28Z")
I would expect that LayOut 2018 will include the updates required to support High Sierra. Historically the next major version is released in November so that’s likely when we’ll see the next one. ---
**Author:** ![trifster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/trifster/32/36736_2.png) [@trifster](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/trifster)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255/3 "2017-08-18T16:09:41Z")
Makes since. Is there usually beta versions of the next version made available early? ---
**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255/4 "2017-08-18T16:10:29Z")
There’s not an open beta if that’s what you mean. ---
**Author:** ![gcox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/53a042/32.png) [@gcox](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/gcox)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255/5 "2017-09-05T19:36:17Z")
So, I’m dead in the water until November’s release of Sketch Up Pro 2018 to open/us Layout?? Any work arounds? ---
**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255/6 "2017-09-05T19:44:05Z")
I guess the work around would be to roll the OS back to the previous version on which LO2017 is supported. ---
**Author:** ![colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/colin/32/266703_2.png) [@colin](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/colin)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255/7 "2017-09-05T19:49:35Z")
Not the easiest of things to do. You could install an older Mac OS on an external drive, and boot from that when you need to use Layout. ---
**Author:** ![colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/colin/32/266703_2.png) [@colin](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/colin)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255/8 "2017-09-05T19:54:31Z")
Funnily, although SketchUp 2017 doesn’t run in Parallels, Layout 2017 looks like it will run. I can’t tell for sure because I only have a Mac SketchUp Pro license. If I had a Windows Pro license I could use Layout under Parallels, as a work around to it not working in macOS, without having to go back to an older Mac OS. ---
**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255/9 "2017-09-05T19:59:15Z")
Colin, licenses haven’t been operating system-specific for a few years. The only limitation is that you can only have SketchUp Pro installed twice. Normally two computers but in this case, twice on the same machine under different OS. ---
**Author:** ![colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/colin/32/266703_2.png) [@colin](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/colin)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255/10 "2017-09-05T20:27:12Z")
Good idea, except that Layout doesn’t allow you to enter a license, and SketchUp 2017 doesn’t work in Parallels. I did add the 2016 license, so at least I’m back in a position of trying Layout issues for the 2016 version. ---
**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255/11 "2017-09-05T20:31:27Z")
You can’t install LayOut independent of SketchUp anyway so I guess that’s a moot point. ---
**Author:** ![colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/colin/32/266703_2.png) [@colin](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/colin)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255/12 "2017-09-05T20:36:59Z")
Well, I have them installed ok, I just can’t license Layout 2017. ---
**Author:** ![colin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/colin/32/266703_2.png) [@colin](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/colin)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255/13 "2017-09-17T21:43:35Z")
I just wrote about a fix, over here: [https://forums.sketchup.com/t/a-fix-for-layout-in-high-sierra/51765](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/a-fix-for-layout-in-high-sierra/51765) ---
**Author:** ![tobyss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aca169/32.png) [@tobyss](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/tobyss)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255/14 "2017-12-13T16:56:42Z")
Hi there, I had no problem with Layout 2017 on OSX 10.13.2 but since upgrading to layout 2018 it keeps crashing if I open documents created in 2017, seems to open ok, but then crashes if I select things… has anyone else found this to be the case? thanks ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/f/2/f2a121500b085ed60806607a82720b092d800bb3.png) [@system](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/layout-crashing-on-macos-10-13-high-sierra-beta/50255/15 "2018-06-15T00:56:43Z")
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