# Is tag overrides stable? **URL:** \ **Category:** LayOut\ **Created:** [October 13, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/is-tag-overrides-stable/244723 "2023-10-13T15:54:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KeeneArchitecture](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/keenearchitecture/32/167116_2.png) [@KeeneArchitecture](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/KeeneArchitecture)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/is-tag-overrides-stable/244723/1 "2023-10-13T15:54:20Z")
I have recently come across the tag override feature in layout and it would GREATLY improve our workflow to be able to modify linework to individual tags in a single viewport. I am just wondering if this is a stable feature within layout before I commit a project to it. Has anyone had problems with tag overrides? ---
**Author:** ![nmason](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/nmason/32/185820_2.png) [@nmason](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/nmason)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/is-tag-overrides-stable/244723/2 "2023-10-13T16:02:01Z")
Prior to the 2023.1 patch, any viewport override with tags, styles, effects, or camera views was a bit unstable. Since the patch, I haven’t had any issues with layout viewport overrides. You just have to be careful if you copy a viewport with an override. Most people discourage it on the forum, as scenes in SU are the most stable. ---
**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/is-tag-overrides-stable/244723/3 "2023-10-13T16:05:28Z")
It works great for me and because I can control tag visibility in LayOut I can get by with many fewer scenes in the SketchUp model. Keep in mind that if you modify the scene’s properties in a viewport and then copy the viewport, the new viewport will have the same overrides even if you choose a different scene. That can be very useful but it might also catch you out in some cases. ---
**Author:** ![PaulMcAlenan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/paulmcalenan/32/211206_2.png) [@PaulMcAlenan](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/PaulMcAlenan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/is-tag-overrides-stable/244723/4 "2023-10-13T16:42:46Z")
For how I use Layout it works fine with raster but it does not work great for me in vector or hybrid. I work exclusively in vector and hybrid. I’ll try find the posts I made at the time the feature came out. ---
**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/is-tag-overrides-stable/244723/5 "2023-10-13T16:44:27Z")
That’s interesting. I also work use Vector or Hybrid rendered viewports and haven’t seen any problems with tag control in LO. Looking forward to seeing your post. ---
**Author:** ![PaulMcAlenan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/paulmcalenan/32/211206_2.png) [@PaulMcAlenan](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/PaulMcAlenan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/is-tag-overrides-stable/244723/6 "2023-10-13T16:54:36Z")
Sorry. Yes – tag visibility override is great but style override is problematic for how I wished to use it when it first came out. As far as I know, the issues that I posted about at the time have not been fixed – if indeed they can be fixed. ---
**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/is-tag-overrides-stable/244723/7 "2023-10-13T16:57:49Z")
> [@PaulMcAlenan](#): > > but style override is problematic for how I wished to use when it first came out. Were you able to sort that out? I also use style overrides frequently in LO. My models normally only have a single working style and I have a colection of styles I use in LO. ---
**Author:** ![KeeneArchitecture](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/keenearchitecture/32/167116_2.png) [@KeeneArchitecture](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/KeeneArchitecture)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/is-tag-overrides-stable/244723/8 "2023-10-13T17:35:32Z")
@DaveR @PaulMcAlenan Awesome! Thank you guys for the comments on this! We’ve decided to try this workflow on a smaller project first. ---
**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/is-tag-overrides-stable/244723/9 "2023-10-13T18:08:20Z")
Good luck. FWIW, here’s a quickie example of what I was getting at with the reduced number of scenes. The three viewports on the left are all created from a single scene. The other six come from one other scene. ![Screenshot - 10_13_2023 , 1_01_14 PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/e/a/ea25f17ac0699554e23b9b7e1af00fb82e7e8b41.png) The original versions of those two scenes are shown at the top in the next image. The two elevation views come from a single scene as well. And of course other elevation views could be created from that scene as I did for the plan views. And this doesn’t get into utilizing dashes (which I also only set in LayOut) nor does it consider the options with stacked viewports. ![Screenshot - 10_13_2023 , 1_04_09 PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/6/3/6349a84d23dc06913a64356a45a62cf6e4b67b64.png) Note that at no time do the Camera properties get modified for any of the viewports. I never modify the Camera properties in LO because that can create loads of trouble. ---
**Author:** ![PaulMcAlenan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/paulmcalenan/32/211206_2.png) [@PaulMcAlenan](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/PaulMcAlenan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/is-tag-overrides-stable/244723/10 "2023-10-13T18:19:01Z")
I’ve quickly rustled something up with project at hand – colours to emphasise the issue… ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/8/a/8a7c6ada46365967f7247638ee0d81358709be9f.png) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/8/4/84bdc6589b012e7414d005c68592f29dcbc87c2b.png) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/9/a/9ae568c76c6892c876f0495acda356e77159a32e.png) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/c/1/c173cf043830d95c9f875b40e848c9088cb119a1.png) Dave, you introduced me to the method of having one SU style and other styles available in LO. ( and it transformed the way I work ! ) I tried to do more complex overrides but the “glitches” that are in the images above would become more and more unacceptable. I sort of have an sense of how it could all be working and how difficult it might be for the SketchUp team to overcome. ---
**Author:** ![KeeneArchitecture](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/keenearchitecture/32/167116_2.png) [@KeeneArchitecture](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/KeeneArchitecture)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/is-tag-overrides-stable/244723/11 "2023-10-13T18:28:40Z")
Amazing, My curiosity is now peaked with the carousel bathroom you’ve planned for. 😋 ---
**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/is-tag-overrides-stable/244723/12 "2023-10-13T18:29:47Z")
I’m not sure exactly how that happens but I wonder if it’s similar to z-fighting. I’ve run into that a few times but stacking viewports seems to get around it. Would be nice if the developers could sort it out, though. ---
**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/is-tag-overrides-stable/244723/13 "2023-10-13T18:39:04Z")
> [@KeeneArchitecture](#): > > My curiosity is now peaked with the carousel bathroom you’ve planned for. LOL! Doesn’t everyone have a sink, bathtub, and carousel horse in their outhouse? Kind of primitive not to. 🤪 This model started out as just a model of a garden shed I built about 22 years ago. I added some stuff to be able to use it to make examples like the one I showed here. I was going to make it a two-holer but I thought the horse was better. ---
**Author:** ![KeeneArchitecture](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/keenearchitecture/32/167116_2.png) [@KeeneArchitecture](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/KeeneArchitecture)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/is-tag-overrides-stable/244723/14 "2023-10-13T18:45:26Z")
The Horse was the right move…