@DaveRSo are you suggesting that I modify the Manufacturers profile drawings. Possibly chamfering all of the radiused corners from 22 facets (as you point-out above) to a single 45 degree face/facet?
Seems like that too could be a lot of additional work on this end to modify what should be a “complete” unbroken line/profile provided by the Manufacturer. The purpose is to “simplify” the amount of data in the drawing?
I’m suggesting you simplify the profile to reduce the overall complexity. No need to show stuff that doesn’t impact the installationn process. I never said anything about replacing arcs with chamfers although if it doesn’t compromise the installation instructions, it’ll certainly help reduce the size of the model and make it easier to work with.
The manufacturer’s use brief is clearly different from yours. They aren’t making these drawings for the use you have in mind.
As for the work involved, I think simplifying the 2D drawing is a better investment in your time and effort than all the screwing around you’re doing trying to deal with the way the 2D drawing is made. I think you’d spend less time simplifying, too.
Actually that was me, not Dave. And yes, the comment was a general one about modeling with more detail than really needed, thus bloating the model file size. Given the characteristics and likely distance in a view, I would expect that something like 8 edges per arc (appropriately smoothed) would produce no visible difference in your presentation. And yes, given the state of the model it would be a fair amount of work to reduce the number of edges.
In the end, though, it boils down to the impact of the detailed window on overall file size and performance. We see a lot of models that become very sluggish to work with because they incorporate things with more detail than needed. If you can live with it, then leave it alone.
OK. Thank you for your input.
The 2D lifework is from the Manufacturers’ website. It’s their CAD file/ “Details”. It is what I used to import into my 2D AutoCAD Details. That is why I was/am reluctant to modify it and it takes more time to do so. If they want us to recommend their product, please provide the 3D Details…
Good suggestion regarding modifying the 2D detail from the manufacturer, then extruding it (Push/Pull).
I think that I’ll look at what Nick Sonder’s (Architect in Truckee, CA) is doing with his details (not sure if he’s sharing those as yet). I’m modeling my drawing sets based on his & Matt Donley’s format/recommendations (SketchUp & Layout for Architecture). Really nice set of Drawings.
Thank you gentlemen for your guidance and suggestions.
Cheers,
Ken
When I downloaded and opened your file, the contents were located very far from the SketchUp origin (almost 700 inches for a part that is itself about 5 inches across). That is not unusual for CAD files, but can cause peculiar behavior in SketchUp. I’d recommend moving the geometry to the origin before doing much with it.
Edit: I took a quick look, and there is now a huge number of Marvin window and door SketchUp models in the Trimble 3D Warehouse. You didn’t state which exact Marvin product you are modeling, so I don’t know whether there is a match. Also I don’t know whether they have a suitable level of detail for what you need to do. But it would be worth looking, as you might save a large amount of work!
The 3D Warehouse elements don’t appear to be “Details”, they are simple elements that you’d place in the model for Interior/Exterior Elevation views.
For your viewing pleasure, here is another link to a DropBox file that shows what we are doing related to the Construction Details. Theres are mock-ups of the actual conditions/relationships between the required/desired elements in relation to each other. Each project/model may have differing manufacturers, Building Code, or Design requirements. These mock-ups are separate from and provide much grater detail than the Building Model (which is a separate model, due to file size). I checked, and Nick Sonder/Matt Donley show the same level of detail that I am trying to emulate in their work (accurate detail/representation of the manufacturers product).
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Above link/file is “work-in-progress”. Each of the view tabs are then imported into Layout and each of the elements are labeled/described in the Specific Detail.