# How should I make a relief of my logo on an uneven surface? **URL:** \ **Category:** SketchUp\ **Tags:** 3dprinting, modeling, solidtools\ **Created:** [January 20, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/how-should-i-make-a-relief-of-my-logo-on-an-uneven-surface/187346 "2022-01-20T15:04:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 10
**Author:** ![TDahl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/tdahl/32/11584_2.png) [@TDahl](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/TDahl)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/how-should-i-make-a-relief-of-my-logo-on-an-uneven-surface/187346/10 "2022-01-31T17:39:03Z")
> [@davehoymusic](#): > > But then if I go to export an STL or even just save the sketchup file, a bunch of errors show up Perhaps SketchUp’s Validity Check operation is damaging the model, due to very short edges? Do you get a dialog window popping up during Save that “Oh no” SketchUp found problems and it will “fix” them for you? That’s a clue that short edges are involved. If so, use the Dave method to edit the geometry at a larger scale: > [@The Dave Method](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/the-dave-method/49720): > > The Dave Method is the clever use of components popularized by @DaveR to avoid the tiny face issue. Sketchup fails to form faces when edge segments get down around the 1/1000" mark. However, tiny faces can exist so the workaround has generally been to scale up your geometry, edit it, then scale back down. This works, but can lead to some issues. The Dave Method leverages the power of components to make life easier. The basic concept is, you start with a component set at the size you want, t… --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/how-should-i-make-a-relief-of-my-logo-on-an-uneven-surface/187346)._