# Hidden Geometry showing when editing Sketchup Model in 21.0.391 **URL:** \ **Category:** LayOut\ **Created:** [January 27, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/hidden-geometry-showing-when-editing-sketchup-model-in-21-0-391/150849 "2021-01-27T15:19:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![j.lehman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@j.lehman](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/j.lehman)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/hidden-geometry-showing-when-editing-sketchup-model-in-21-0-391/150849/1 "2021-01-27T15:19:04Z")
Here is a Sketchup Model with Hidden Geometry: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/d/c/dc1a814c03f5c9b8c9888526665298ce67ef479d.png) Here is what it looks like when copied & pasted to Layout: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/8/d/8de95ef28ec57470916a0cad6ab9b8a3bb2a38e8.jpeg) When I open it in Sketchup, from Layout, to edit, all of that hidden geometry shows up: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/2/f/2f0910216b885d73dc6efbb1557695763c8d864d.jpeg) This did not happen in the previous versions of Sketchup. We are using dynamic components to toggle the visibility of this geometry, just like we had been with previous versions. Here is the Sketchup Model I started with: [Post Frame Model.skp](https://forums.sketchup.com/uploads/short-url/aDi01pp3o95Bs8q02vGbapHcpNV.skp) (933.8 KB) Layout File:[Post Frame Model.layout](https://forums.sketchup.com/uploads/short-url/mYmyepMgfUxderLDnlQRsBuStOc.layout) (4.9 MB) ---
**Author:** ![j.lehman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@j.lehman](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/j.lehman)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/hidden-geometry-showing-when-editing-sketchup-model-in-21-0-391/150849/2 "2021-01-27T15:29:12Z")
Sorry, I guess I didn’t state my question! What changed, or what do we need to do differently to keep this geometry hidden? ---
**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/hidden-geometry-showing-when-editing-sketchup-model-in-21-0-391/150849/3 "2021-01-27T15:46:39Z")
The style in your SketchUp model has Profiles on and set to 3 which seems pretty heavy to me. I changed them to 1 and updated the model. This is what I see in LayOut: ![Screenshot - 1_27_2021 , 9_35_22 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/a/7/a74ee887635eb63438cfc62cedd5170ea64bdc8a.jpeg) And exported as a PDF: ![Screenshot - 1_27_2021 , 9_35_00 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/2/c/2c78d0e97c58a7c62b81ee220df71982fcc0b1e4.jpeg) I think it looks pretty good. If you don’t see the same thing, you might want to look at the OpenGL settings in Sketchup under Preferences\>OpenGL. I do see a couple of other issues that although they don’t directly impact the answer to your question, will cause you problems later. First, you aren’t using scenes in your SketchUp model. Instead you are using Last saved SketchUp view. This means if you go back to the SketchUp model and make any changes, changes in the camera position will transfer to the viewport. The other thing is you should NOT be copying and pasting from SketchUp to LayOut. That results in a separate reference SKP file for each viewport. You can see there are four SKP files in your LO file. And because you’ve are copied and pasted, the references become embedded meaning the viewports are no longer referencing the original model. Editing that original model won’t affect the model shown in the LayOut file. ![Screenshot - 1_27_2021 , 9_37_39 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/7/e/7eef6a68cfc34f0e71fc349864dde826998e670a.png) Instead you should be creating scenes to show the model they way you want it in the document. Then you should either use File\>Send to LayOut in SketchUp or File\>Insert in LayOut to get the first viewport on the page. After that you copy and paste that viewport within LayOut to create the additional ones and in the SketchUp Model panel you choose the desired scene for each viewport. Your profile says you are using 2020.2 ---
**Author:** ![j.lehman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@j.lehman](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/j.lehman)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/hidden-geometry-showing-when-editing-sketchup-model-in-21-0-391/150849/4 "2021-01-27T17:34:48Z")
Thanks Dave! I’ll look to see how to update that profile. Here is the version I’ve recently upgraded to, which made these items come up: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/3/f/3fbbba079861cd3903bed9395b9f90b54d74234b.png) I’ll be checking out the other items you posted as well! Also, another item on the profile becomes readily apparent: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/d/3/d393d96fc64701da1053cab9580dda065a3cde71.png) Thanks for your input! ---
**Author:** ![Anssi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/anssi/32/105_2.png) [@Anssi](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Anssi)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/hidden-geometry-showing-when-editing-sketchup-model-in-21-0-391/150849/5 "2021-01-27T19:08:15Z")
> [@j.lehman](#): > > This did not happen in the previous versions of Sketchup By “previous” you mean which version? The behaviour of hidden geometry in scenes in SketchUp has been changed. SketchUp now remembers the hidden status of subcomponents or groups per scene. You should save your SketchUp view that looks like you would like it to look as a scene, and use the Send to LayOut command to insert your model into your LayOut file. Once there, you should set your LayOut viewport to refer to the scene you saved. Especially, copying and pasting is not to be recommended. It creates a file reference to a temporary file. ---
**Author:** ![j.lehman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@j.lehman](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/j.lehman)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/hidden-geometry-showing-when-editing-sketchup-model-in-21-0-391/150849/6 "2021-01-27T19:18:30Z")
I have used all of these: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/3/4/340178181b2383c9f054cd1b3bef206216173f3b.png) I only ran into problems with the way I was doing this last update. Thanks for the tips about using Scenes. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/f/2/f2a121500b085ed60806607a82720b092d800bb3.png) [@system](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/hidden-geometry-showing-when-editing-sketchup-model-in-21-0-391/150849/7 "2021-07-30T03:18:31Z")
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