# Groups showing in wrong tag

**URL:** <https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269>\
**Category:** SketchUp\
**Tags:** sketchup, advice\
**Created:** [July 17, 2020, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269 "2020-07-17T10:58:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Doogs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/doogs/32/77061_2.png) [@Doogs](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Doogs)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/1 "2020-07-17T10:58:22Z")

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Hi

I’m drawing a house plan and have two hip rafters that belong to my roof tag and they disappear when I turn the roof tag off but they also disappear when I turn the wall frame tag off. Any suggestions? I’ve tried changing the tags to other ones I have and turning them back but they keep sticking to the wall frame tag.  
Thanks in advance.  
Craig

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**Author:** ![Box](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/box/32/235164_2.png) [@Box](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Box)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/2 "2020-07-17T11:04:57Z")

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Sounds like the raw geometry within the groups is set to the wrong tag. All raw geometry should remain as Untagged.  
Open the group and triple click inside and check what it says in Entity info, if Tag is blank it means you have mixed tags, if it says Untagged it is something else and if it says ‘wall’ or ‘Roof’ depending on what group you are in you know its wrong.  
Attach the model if you want us to check for you.

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**Author:** ![Doogs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/doogs/32/77061_2.png) [@Doogs](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Doogs)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/3 "2020-07-17T11:15:16Z")

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Thanks Box, the tag is right and instance is blank. How do I attache the model?

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**Author:** ![Box](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/box/32/235164_2.png) [@Box](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Box)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/4 "2020-07-17T11:17:20Z")

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If you are using the Web version you first need to download the model to your computer, then drag and drop the saved file into the reply window.

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**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/5 "2020-07-17T11:19:46Z")

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Your profile says you are using SketchUp Free (Web). If that is the case, click on the menu button in the top left corner. Then click on Download. Once the file is downloaded to your computer, you can drag it into the forum reply window. If it’s too large to upload here you will need to upload it to somewhere like DropBox or Google Drive and share the link.

 ![Screenshot - 7_17_2020 , 6_17_09 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/e/d/edce221ef19fb596ed6cc205b2b112ea289bb9d4.png)

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**Author:** ![Doogs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/doogs/32/77061_2.png) [@Doogs](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Doogs)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/6 "2020-07-17T11:28:31Z")

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Thanks guys, here it is  
[Alfresco.skp](https://forums.sketchup.com/uploads/short-url/9Gi9cdZtQHxGPkk78bNCMfLcruK.skp) (9.1 MB)

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**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/7 "2020-07-17T11:41:18Z")

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Excessive nesting and different group containers along with the geometry inside have the wrong tag applied to it.

Look at Entity Info and Outliner on the right as I drill into the groups.

Top group tagged Roof…

 ![Screenshot - 7_17_2020 , 6_36_01 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/c/0/c09a8955bb2731fae5a41f4480d24891ec65023e.png)

…as is the next group in…

 ![Screenshot - 7_17_2020 , 6_36_17 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/7/b/7b74d42086fce881b2d967455e264bc87d84d630.png)

…the next group in is takked Wall Frames…

 ![Screenshot - 7_17_2020 , 6_36_42 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/0/a/0aeec67cf06bc793341375740e0914ac74bd4c9b.png)

…as is this selected group…

 ![Screenshot - 7_17_2020 , 6_36_56 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/6/8/685db15fda8c128c6c85b0337756450c10c8e4a3.png)

.and when you get inside that one, the geometry is tagged Roof. It should be Untagged as Box indicated.

 ![Screenshot - 7_17_2020 , 6_37_14 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/e/d/ed2dc8305c5abccad1f988eb5b63d9089d1dbc19.png)

 ![Screenshot - 7_17_2020 , 6_42_07 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/f/a/fa5a0a1b7078c4f15e56d6529c0f4c9cecea0d28.png)

The fix in SketchUp Free is to go through and correct the tags in Entity Info as you burrow into the groups.

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**Author:** ![Doogs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/doogs/32/77061_2.png) [@Doogs](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Doogs)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/8 "2020-07-17T11:43:04Z")

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Thanks so much Dave it was doing my head in.

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**Author:** ![Box](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/box/32/235164_2.png) [@Box](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Box)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/9 "2020-07-17T11:46:11Z")

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Looks like you are chasing tags as you work, leave Untagged as as the active layer at all times.

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**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/10 "2020-07-17T11:46:26Z")

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FWIW, you are creating this problem by not leaving Untagged as the active.

![Screenshot - 7_17_2020 , 6_45_38 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/3/1/319890480e74c39b44cbfdf8202e7f036eb084c4.png)

I used an old extension to fix the incorrect tagging of geometry.  
 ![Screenshot - 7_17_2020 , 6_46_58 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/f/8/f8f2c26fcf144131b74c8e592ef370363c0332c6.png)

I also purged unused and cleaned up the model.  
 ![Screenshot - 7_17_2020 , 6_47_57 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/4/0/40577cccb41c4cdc15b1f244aa0eb1f50d2c2e66.png)

![Screenshot - 7_17_2020 , 6_48_15 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/d/7/d784f88979659486e4ba27624c7ce8bd1443e493.png)

Here’s the cleaned up file.  
[Alfresco cleaned.skp](https://forums.sketchup.com/uploads/short-url/s8H22crssRdcuR1li0zp7k1eXls.skp) (1.7 MB)  
About an 81% reduction.

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**Author:** ![Box](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/box/32/235164_2.png) [@Box](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Box)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/11 "2020-07-17T11:48:29Z")

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You should also look at using components for repeating objects rather than groups.

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**Author:** ![Doogs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/doogs/32/77061_2.png) [@Doogs](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Doogs)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/12 "2020-07-17T14:42:17Z")

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Appreciate all your help Box and Dave

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**Author:** ![Doogs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/doogs/32/77061_2.png) [@Doogs](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Doogs)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/13 "2020-07-17T14:46:01Z")

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So I should draw all components on the untagged layer and then move them to the tagged layer when I’m finished?

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**Author:** ![DaveR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/daver/32/7601_2.png) [@DaveR](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/DaveR)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/14 "2020-07-17T14:52:49Z")

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Tags and Untagged are not layers. You should do all the modeling, creating raw geometry as untagged. Then only tag the group or component containers.

Do not assign tags to edges or faces. Only assign tags to objects (groups and components.).

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**Author:** ![RLGL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/rlgl/32/44295_2.png) [@RLGL](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/RLGL)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/15 "2020-07-17T15:00:17Z")

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Tags in Sketchup do **not** function as layers do in a photo editing program. They are to control visibility only.

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**Author:** ![Box](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/box/32/235164_2.png) [@Box](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Box)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/groups-showing-in-wrong-tag/131269/16 "2020-07-18T00:46:47Z")

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> [@Doogs](#):
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> on the untagged layer and then move them to the tagged layer

This thought process is the main reason for changing the name from Layers to Tags.  
Don’t think of **putting** anything **on** a layer/tag. A layer/tag is not a physical place.  
Think in terms of **assigning** a **Tag** to an **object** for the purpose of **visibility**. You tag things so you can turn them on and off as a collection. They are a display device not a construction tool.
