# Drawing or Drafting? **URL:** \ **Category:** Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 10, 2019, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827 "2019-10-10T08:34:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RTCool](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/rtcool/32/181048_2.png) [@RTCool](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/RTCool)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/21 "2019-10-10T19:01:24Z")
I think a confusion between “drawing” and “drafting” could be that drawing is a superset of drafting. Drawing can be any kind of image making with pen or pencil, while drafting refers to carefully made drawings with the aid of straight edges. All drafting is a form of drawing, but not all drawing is a form of drafting. Once in a while, you see the phrase “technical drawing” to refer to a drawing that was drafted. Sketching means typically fast and freehand; quite the opposite of drafting. That’s traditional media. What do you call what we do in SketchUp? That’s hard to say. When you use the mouse, and eyeball everything, it’s more like sketching, while typing specific dimensions into the VCB to carefully make something is more like drafting. Just call it modeling, and you can avoid it all together. I have always wondered what the German word for drafting is, as opposed to drawing in general. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/peter_b/32/48426_2.png) [@Peter\_B](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Peter_B)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/22 "2019-10-10T20:58:54Z")
Thanks for your input Robert. Yes I agree, the stuff we do in SketchUp is 3d-Modeling. But we also have Layout. So when you work in PowerCADD (or Layout), you can call the output a Drafting? And if I have a 2d-Drawing, which is deduced from a 3d model, I also can say “this is a Drafting”? If yes, does that mean, Drafting is usual in the U.S.? And not in England (like simoncbevans wrote earlier)? As far as I know, in German there is no superset like Drawing. But there are these categories: Skizze (noun) / skizzieren (verb): like you wrote fast and freehand = Sketch / Sketching, Malerei (noun) / malen (verb): Painting with Brushes on a canvas or paper. Zeichnung (noun) / zeichnen (verb): Drawing things with Lines and Dashes. The guy who is doing this is called: Zeichner. My profession is called “Bauzeichner”. “Bau” means Construction/Building. But the guys who works in the automotive and metalworking-Section are called “Technischer Zeichner” = technical Draftsman. Which I think is curios, because I´m also drafting technical things. But there are also the Designers and Illustrators. What do they do? designing and illustrating things 😅. But they also do Drawings & Draftings i guess. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![g.h.hubers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@g.h.hubers](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/g.h.hubers)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/23 "2019-10-10T21:25:17Z")
> [@Peter\_B](#): > > you can call the output a Drafting? And if I have a 2d-Drawing, which is deduced from a 3d model, I also can say “this is a Drafting”? To me it seems that here you need to skip the word **a** , the result is still a drawing, although a technical drawing. ---
**Author:** ![RTCool](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/rtcool/32/181048_2.png) [@RTCool](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/RTCool)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/25 "2019-10-12T16:16:30Z")
It’s funny, but the actor (noun) is a draftsman, the act (verb) is drafting, but the product created is always referred to as a drawing … unless it’s a pretty picture done with water colors, markers, colored pencils and the like, in which case it’s a rendering. Is entwerfen used for architectural design? Interesting difference in British English spelling vs. American common spelling. Not that Americans haven’t seen “draught”, but they’re more likely to associate it with beer. I still have a few of these Berol 314 “draughting” pencils from the '80’s~'90’s. ![_DSC1945-1080-WM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/8/8/882f9409cea84b9f0344c6cb19d301940ac6cf9d.jpeg) Ironically, they are a favorite for sketching freehand on trace, not technical drafting. You can still buy them, but they don’t say “draughting” on them anymore. BTW, in other usage, drafting is also what [Mark Cavendish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cavendish) relied on lead out men like [Mark Renshaw](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Renshaw) for. I suppose on the Isle of Man, that too is spelled draughting? ---
**Author:** ![john\_drivenupthewall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@john\_drivenupthewall](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/john_drivenupthewall)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/26 "2019-10-12T18:42:53Z")
> [@RTCool](#): > > spelled **spelt** … john ---
**Author:** ![c\_j\_ryan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/c_j_ryan/32/65050_2.png) [@c\_j\_ryan](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/c_j_ryan)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/27 "2019-10-12T18:48:48Z")
The past tense of the verb “spell” can be **spelled** in two ways. ---
**Author:** ![g.h.hubers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@g.h.hubers](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/g.h.hubers)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/28 "2019-10-12T20:20:07Z")
Always nice to know. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/b/e/be363374196b58129b4d77a34dabc89bb51d12b5.png) ---
**Author:** ![Sonder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/sonder/32/27173_2.png) [@Sonder](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Sonder)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/29 "2019-10-12T23:56:08Z")
Seriously, this turned into an English lesson for a German that comes on here speaking better English than many Americans? Where are you in Germany? I love Germany and apprecuated the “Draught” replacement. One thing Germans surely would appreciate! I have family in Fula and I am trying to get there every 2 years! ---
**Author:** ![Sonder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/sonder/32/27173_2.png) [@Sonder](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Sonder)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/30 "2019-10-12T23:57:35Z")
Sorry Fulda! ---
**Author:** ![john\_drivenupthewall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@john\_drivenupthewall](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/john_drivenupthewall)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/31 "2019-10-13T00:02:09Z")
I thought the english lessons were aimed at the merykins… john ---
**Author:** ![RLGL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/rlgl/32/44295_2.png) [@RLGL](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/RLGL)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/32 "2019-10-13T01:09:09Z")
[_ **semantics** _](https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1PRFI_enUS868US868&sxsrf=ACYBGNTy1EjrN-PrCyDHXJAI5AGTT9F5gw:1570928881728&q=semantics&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjyvNmPhpjlAhUQsZ4KHb91DcoQkeECCC4oAA) ---
**Author:** ![davidheim1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@davidheim1](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/davidheim1)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/33 "2019-10-13T03:15:01Z")
To further muddle the waters, a draftsman produces mechanical drawings. So called, I guess, because in the old days one used a T-square, triangles, French curves, and other templates to put the right shapes in the right places. This as opposed to freehand drawing. Or sketching, to some of us. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/peter_b/32/48426_2.png) [@Peter\_B](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Peter_B)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/34 "2019-10-13T09:20:01Z")
Robert, Thanks! I think now I gott it! Yes, “entwerfen” means designing Architecture. “Entwurf” is called the finished design. This is usually a Drawing by hand. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/peter_b/32/48426_2.png) [@Peter\_B](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Peter_B)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/35 "2019-10-13T10:29:05Z")
Nick, thanks a lot, but in writing english I´m much better than speaking it. This is because when I don´t know a word, I can stop my texting and quickly can take a look at dict.cc 😁 But my goal is, to be able to speak english fluently. And of course I appreciate this little english lesson a lot. Thanks to all! Funny thing is, that I learn a lot from watching SketchUp-videos on youtube. Fulda? 4 hours away from the place where I´m located at. I live and work in a town called Albstadt. 800 m above sea-level, which means chances are that we have building freezes during winter. But we use that period to design next projects. Little Story: Before I started with SketchUp two years ago, I thought, SketchUp can only be used for very simple things. But after I saw a video on Yt, showing your awesome work and workflow with the program, I was very surprised and thrilled! ---
**Author:** ![eneroth3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/eneroth3/32/1222_2.png) [@eneroth3](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/eneroth3)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/36 "2019-10-13T11:47:47Z")
Not a native English speaker but I’ve interpreted drafting as referring to making an actual (technical) drawing, while drawing could refer to sketching and other things too. Typically, at least in the old days, an older architect would make decisions and communicate them as quick sketches, while an intern would typically then draft the actual drawings to scale and with straight lines. ---
**Author:** ![MikeWayzovski](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/mikewayzovski/32/98346_2.png) [@MikeWayzovski](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/MikeWayzovski)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/37 "2019-10-13T13:43:42Z")
> [@eneroth3](#): > > Typically, at least in the old days, an older architect would make decisions and communicate them was it in the beginning of the 70’s? > **[Private Video - Dailymotion](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2hwqok)** > > This video is private. ---
**Author:** ![eneroth3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/eneroth3/32/1222_2.png) [@eneroth3](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/eneroth3)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/38 "2019-10-13T14:53:06Z")
Architecture school never prepared me for this! ---
**Author:** ![MikeWayzovski](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/mikewayzovski/32/98346_2.png) [@MikeWayzovski](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/MikeWayzovski)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/39 "2019-10-13T15:29:57Z")
Well I used to learn English from Python😃 ---
**Author:** ![Anssi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/anssi/32/105_2.png) [@Anssi](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Anssi)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/40 "2019-10-13T18:14:48Z")
> [@MikeWayzovski](#): > > Well I used to learn English from Python Note that it is “Queen’s English”. If you speak about “flats” in the US they will send you to a tyre repair shop. When I was at school in the third quarter of the 20th century our English teachers scolded us severely for using Americanisms acquired mostly from TV. Now Google or someone puts wavy lines under English spellings. ---
**Author:** ![eneroth3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/eneroth3/32/1222_2.png) [@eneroth3](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/eneroth3)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/drawing-or-drafting/105827/41 "2019-10-13T20:23:18Z")
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