# Continues crash of Layout

**URL:** <https://forums.sketchup.com/t/continues-crash-of-layout/38825>\
**Category:** LayOut\
**Created:** [February 9, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/continues-crash-of-layout/38825 "2017-02-09T16:30:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![maik\_r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@maik\_r](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/maik_r)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/continues-crash-of-layout/38825/1 "2017-02-09T16:30:04Z")

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Layout keeps crashing. Any time I make a double click on a text or any other move that seems more than normal…  
The program is so fragile at the moment. Working with it is not possible. Is there anything I can do?  
Does anyone have the same problem?

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**Author:** ![Marc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/marc/32/11407_2.png) [@Marc](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Marc)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/continues-crash-of-layout/38825/2 "2017-02-09T17:31:51Z")

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Exactly what version of LayOut and what version of OS X are you using?

You can see the full version number for LayOut in LayOut-\>“About LayOut”.

-m

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**Author:** ![maik\_r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@maik\_r](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/maik_r)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/continues-crash-of-layout/38825/3 "2017-02-09T19:39:04Z")

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Hey Marc,  
thanks for your quick response.  
I  
It´s Layout 16.0.19913 and it´s MAc OS Sierra 10.12.3

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/4/a/4a71dde0ca56b44c88d9fec410909267db59b85b.png)

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**Author:** ![Marc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/marc/32/11407_2.png) [@Marc](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Marc)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/continues-crash-of-layout/38825/4 "2017-02-09T19:48:47Z")

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LayOut 16.0 was released before Sierra, so there are some serious issues - particularly with text editing. Installing a newer copy of LayOut will fix the problem.

Here’s a link to all of the available download versions:  
[http://www.sketchup.com/download/all](http://www.sketchup.com/download/all)

Here’s a thread (somewhat outdated) with some more details:

> [@SketchUp and macOS Sierra](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sketchup-and-macos-sierra/26490):
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> Hi all~ Edit 10/3/2016: We have released SketchUp 2016M2 to address the worst of the issues on Sierra. Just a reminder that the newly announced (and not yet released) macOS Sierra is not officially supported by SketchUp - if you’re a person who loves to install beta software versions, be aware that SketchUp may exhibit all sorts of unwanted behavior. I ALWAYS recommend installing beta OS versions on separate partitions or removable drives so that you can revert to a known-good OS as necessary…

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**Author:** ![maik\_r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@maik\_r](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/maik_r)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/continues-crash-of-layout/38825/6 "2017-02-09T20:21:09Z")

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Hey Marc,  
i don´t quite get where exactly I can update layout. the link links to  
several sketchup versions including sketchup 2017.  
Will i have to download that? Do I need to purchase something or is the  
update free. Does 17 support sierra?

Best regards Maik

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**Author:** ![Marc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/user_avatar/forums.sketchup.com/marc/32/11407_2.png) [@Marc](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/Marc)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/continues-crash-of-layout/38825/7 "2017-02-09T21:03:28Z")

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You can continue using 2016 if you want, but you could update to 2017 if you paid for maintenance & support.

Here’s a direct link to the German, Mac version of SketchUp 2016:  
[http://dl.trimble.com/sketchup/2016/de/SketchUpPro-2016-1-2418-80527-de.dmg](http://dl.trimble.com/sketchup/2016/de/SketchUpPro-2016-1-2418-80527-de.dmg)

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**Author:** ![maik\_r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@maik\_r](https://forums.sketchup.com/u/maik_r)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.sketchup.com/t/continues-crash-of-layout/38825/8 "2017-02-09T21:51:03Z")

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Thank you Marc,

that totally solved it. I downloaded sketchup 16, installed it . Got a newer version of layout and now layout works very stabil. No bugsplash so far.

Thanks for your effort.

Best regards Maik
