Scale functionality using both the native and new scale tools in LayOut 2025!
It’s actually a bit all over the shop in reality, but I’d suggest the second could be related to a similar bug in '24 in regards to scaling:
Using SHIFT+ALT to scale off the side handles, maintaining centre and proportion, you can increase but not decrease an object’s size!
Using SHIFT to scale off the side handles, maintaining proportion, you again can scale larger but not smaller, but if you try a second time, it scales but only on the stetched axis ie: not maintaining proportion.
I think there are a few other weirdnesses but haven’t been able to recreate!
These functions have worked since, like the first release, admittedly using native scale. This problem is now with both, and is surely a bug! I’d suggest the scaling function requires some serious looking into, there are a few significant bugs within this critical tool!
I couldn’t quite follow you at first Richard but I now see some issues with the new scale tool as you describe.
And there does not appear to be any indication that shift or alt has been pressed to modify the scale behaviour (or at least none that I can see) – certainly when you press ctrl the tool cursor icon changes to include a plus sign.
For sure – activate the scale tool and press shift once and ok we are now in uniform scaling mode and press again and we are out of that mode
But if we have a bunch of scaling to do – some uniform some not, some just about centre or some uniform about centre… without an indicator one could easily lose track of whether the shift or alt we pressed was going to modify the scale operation or not as we need.
I’ve just noticed this one click (SHIFT) enablement of the proportionate scaling function of the new scale tool, that seems a bit of an odd functionality, as it only allows one event and turns off! Surely just holding shift as with the old tool is sufficient as per any page layout or graphic tool. I’m certainly glad it doesn’t stay enabled, not that I’ll ever use it!
The beauty of LayOut has always been the ability to select > scale > rotate > move > copy without changing tools, it makes for a super fast workflow (albeit the change in inferencing has significantly hampered the speed of this workflow). BTW, I have conjured a remedy that could be employed to fix this:
When you select an object, if you move it without selecting an anchor firstly - native inferencing kicks in, if you select an anchor the anchor inferencing kicks in! This for me is the absolute best of both worlds, and would truly speed up workflow!