Am I the only one who thinks the AI credit is a scam?
Why should companies be able to wipe AI credits you paid for? And that’s on top of the fact that you don’t get credited when AI spits out garbage renders or models.
yes, the whole “AI economy” is a scam, it’s billion-dollars deals between the same 5 companies and then anyone that mentions AI gets massive funding.
it’s a bubble waiting to explode and when it does, it will take a big chunk of the world’s economy with it.
because the companies behind AI owns the models and the tokens, tokens, credits, whatever you call them, don’t have the value you actually pay for. it’s like playing world of warcraft and then blizzard decides to delete all your virtual money and tells you to start again.
also, slop. and environment impact. and it’s built on the most massive theft of history. pick your reason to be angry.
the AI industry is a bubble that scams people into paying for tokens and credits instead of investing in knowledge and hiring actual talent.
this is my 2 tokens.
good night.
oh wait, you’re talking about the credits to use the AI things in sketchup ? is anyone actually using this ?
It’s similar to a gym membership. You pay per month, and it’s up to you how much you actually use it. Claude and ChatGPT work in a similar way. You’re paying for access during that period, not buying something that has to roll over forever.
If you could save those credits for years, the economics could change completely by the time you use them. The model might no longer exist, the provider could change, or the cost of compute and electricity could be very different.
That said, I still don’t think AI tools really need to become part of the SketchUp ecosystem itself. MCP servers already give AI a way to work with SketchUp from the outside, which seems like enough to me.
I just went through re-starting my Creative Cloud subscription. In doing that I had a long chat with Gemini, to make sure I was getting the right subscription. Part of the conversation was about the 4000 Firefly credits that you get each month. I asked things like: do the credits roll over? What happens if the results are not anything like the prompt I gave? Should I use up any remaining credits?
These are answers for the Adobe case, but I imagine most AI credit systems are similar: No, they don’t roll over. No, there is not a refund if the results are not as expected. Yes, you might as well burn through any remaining credits before the next month’s new 4000.
One interesting thought is that use of AI credits might become more popular because you will lose the credits left over each month. If leftover credits rolled over you might never take advantage of them.
Chaos does the same with their rendering credits, the sketchup texture club in free mode lets you grab 15 images per day (doesn’t add up over time)…
if a company offers a one-time purchase, then you usually benefit from it until it’s all used. I have yet to see a suscription model offer cumulative credits though 
Not the most ecological strategy is it! - Feel free to warm the planet a little more by making sure you use all your credits creating stuff no one really wants or needs, and in doing so your addiction to AI will be assured.
Yeah its an absolute disgrace.. mainly no rollovers. Use em up or lose em. There needs to be regulation on all this (scam) ridiculous expectation that people will pour money continuously. As soon as they see theor credits crunch they loose interest
People stopped paying prices proportional to value a long time ago. Instead, - very simplified - you pay an average price calculated based on a range: the amount someone for whom money is no object would pay, and the price point at which the item can still realistically be sold. As long as a good number of people are willing to pay for it, they will keep doing it. Once it’s no longer that much profitable, they won’t sell it. They usually put together very, very clever Terms and Conditions—you read, understood, and accepted them too, right? So, it wasn’t a scam.
Oops, I haven’t watched a single movie on Apple TV this month yet; I’ll quickly go and watch them all. Or should I cancel instead? Oh no—what if a good movie happens to be on right then? 
And as far as the “garbage renders or models” go, it’s like demanding Steam refund your game because you didn’t win a multiplayer match. The amount you’re paying in credits would never be enough to guarantee quality. You’re only paying to run tokens through a diffusion model.
It’s frustrating but understandable why credits wouldn’t roll over - companies operating data centers need to be able to predict how much computing power they’ll be using. If I stop drinking one coffee every morning for 3 months and then one day try to take 3 months worth of coffee all at once, it wouldn’t be surprising that my office might run out. AI companies need to have a certain confidence in their usage rates so they can be confident in both their costs and their revenues.
There is no official SuperGrok ↔ SketchUp credit transfer or integration.
Third-party SketchUp extensions can talk to external LLMs (including via an xAI API key), but that uses API billing, not your SuperGrok subscription pool.
why would there be any transfer from a company to another ?
and yeah, grok, they’re not into sketchup, undressing the scale figures is not their thing I guess.
(yes, it is sarcasm)
also your perception of time would slow down to a standstill. here is the proof 
Yeah get organised pls. We all should read the term agree and keep paying credits 
Recurring revenue is very often incompatible with what is good for the user.
Just used it the other night to make “sloped” piping’ add-on…so yes Grok is into Sketchup’
Yes, i started to use the ai assistant in sketchup to generate some models.
Like this weddingcaketopper for my niece 
(Note: the cake i did not 3d print
)
Edit: But i have stopped using the ai render in sketchup since it somehow keeps adding random stuff or changing materials without being asked to do so, consuming credits while the results were not usefull for me,
Like:
me: Render this cardboard box.
ai: Here is your render of the cardboard box with a tape around it. (10 credits lost)
me: Remove the tape keep everything else unchanged.
ai: Here is your render of the cardboard box without the tape, but with a bird on top. (20 credits lost)
me: Just render the box and do not change or add anything.
ai: Here is the render of your concrete box. (30 credit lost)
Could have better use those credits to generate a weddingcaketopper 
oh yes, the 3d making part. gotcha. completely forgot about that one
nice cake topper
I had the “making pretty images” in mind, that uses small bananas. and in the end, using nano banana in gemini brings similar or better results with more tools and flexibility
and like you describe, if you spend 10 min arguing with it BOOM you’ve lost all your credits.
This is going to be the kind of difficulty that certain characters run into in the modern world as various aspects of our interactions with companies who are making money from you get replaced by AI models that have no ability to back down, you can kick and scream all you like if it didn’t do a job that is up to your subjective standard.
“I want to speak to your manager” does not work here.
Also, the idea that everything being faster and more efficient is not compatible with it also being “free”. If you’ve found value in something, then that value is going to be exploited into cost. At the very least the cost of burning fossil fuels to power that query.
Yeah, I’m really looking forward to this circular AI economy to fucking crash. I’m not saying they won’t all be bailed out and we’ll all be footing the bill but you know there will be at least one of the bigger ones who will be assigned the scapegoat.
Yeah, I don’t think it’s a good thing at all.
It’s both incredibly clever what can be achieved with this technology, but you can see exactly the way it’s going to go.